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T-Mobile is an example of cellular companies responding to tight competition and differentiating by removing caps / usage fees. The key is competition though,

by bigdubs 10y ago

T-Mobile is an example of cellular companies responding to tight competition and differentiating by removing caps / usage fees. The key is competition though, as you've pointed out.

LeoPanthera 10y ago
The new T-Mobile "One" plans are T-Mobile rapidly trying to "re-carrier" itself after the briefly exciting Uncarrier days. There are indeed no caps, but only at the expense of streaming video, which is throttled and restricted to SD resolutions, unless you pay extra to get HD, which seems to me to be a blatant disregard of net neutrality.
kuschku 10y ago
You do realize T-Mobile is on a full EEE trip there? Look at Germany, where they existed for a while already, and have pushed against net neutrality, refuse to peer with companies unless they get paid, replace ads in websites with their own with MitM proxies and so on. T-Online/T-Mobile are the worst of the worst.
- bogomipz 10y ago
  What is EEE? Unfortunately paid peering is pretty much the norm these days unless you are part of the exclusive club of Tier 1 ISPs, not that I'm defending it. I don't have much great to say about any of the wireless carriers but I feel like T-Mobile is at least trying new things. The T Mobile One plan for instance is really great if you travel internationally. I don't know of any other carrier that is doing that.
  - l1n 10y ago
    "Embrace, extend, and extinguish", also known as "Embrace, extend, and exterminate", is a phrase that the U.S. Department of Justice found that was used internally by Microsoft to describe its strategy for entering product categories involving widely used standards, extending those standards with proprietary capabilities, and then using those differences to disadvantage its competitors. [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace_extend_extinguish https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace_extend_extinguish
eli 10y ago
T-Mobile favors content from certain providers and in certain formats by exempting their traffic from data caps. A very anti-net neutrality move cleverly positioned as a customer benefit. I like T-Mobile and dislike Comcast, but IMHO violating net neutrality by billing for data differently based on who I'm exchanging packets with is much worse than being a dumb pipe that happens to have a monthly download cap.

by bigdubs 10y ago

T-Mobile is an example of cellular companies responding to tight competition and differentiating by removing caps / usage fees. The key is competition though, as you've pointed out.

LeoPanthera 10y ago

The new T-Mobile "One" plans are T-Mobile rapidly trying to "re-carrier" itself after the briefly exciting Uncarrier days. There are indeed no caps, but only at the expense of streaming video, which is throttled and restricted to SD resolutions, unless you pay extra to get HD, which seems to me to be a blatant disregard of net neutrality.

kuschku 10y ago

You do realize T-Mobile is on a full EEE trip there? Look at Germany, where they existed for a while already, and have pushed against net neutrality, refuse to peer with companies unless they get paid, replace ads in websites with their own with MitM proxies and so on. T-Online/T-Mobile are the worst of the worst.

bogomipz 10y ago
What is EEE? Unfortunately paid peering is pretty much the norm these days unless you are part of the exclusive club of Tier 1 ISPs, not that I'm defending it. I don't have much great to say about any of the wireless carriers but I feel like T-Mobile is at least trying new things. The T Mobile One plan for instance is really great if you travel internationally. I don't know of any other carrier that is doing that.
- l1n 10y ago
  "Embrace, extend, and extinguish", also known as "Embrace, extend, and exterminate", is a phrase that the U.S. Department of Justice found that was used internally by Microsoft to describe its strategy for entering product categories involving widely used standards, extending those standards with proprietary capabilities, and then using those differences to disadvantage its competitors. [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace_extend_extinguish https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace_extend_extinguish

eli 10y ago

T-Mobile favors content from certain providers and in certain formats by exempting their traffic from data caps. A very anti-net neutrality move cleverly positioned as a customer benefit. I like T-Mobile and dislike Comcast, but IMHO violating net neutrality by billing for data differently based on who I'm exchanging packets with is much worse than being a dumb pipe that happens to have a monthly download cap.