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Can someone speak specifically about the UK software market? We seem to wrongly be making statements about the US market, which this article is not about. Fro

• sharemywin 10y ago
  Here's an article talking about STEM crisis for jobs and workers in US: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12663051 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12663051
• werty1 10y ago
  The UK doesn't really value software. Costs of living are lower outside of London somewhat, but not in anywhere you can get a decent software job. Shorter working hours doesn't really apply. Yes, we may be paid for 40 hours, but we still have tons to do. At the companies I've worked at not a single dev works less than 10 hours per day, not to mention the out of hours work that needs to be done. Longer vacations - well on paper, but you don't always get to take them. Working on holiday isn't time off it's still work. This is different at larger institutions, but larger institutions don't have a problem paying competitive salaries.
  • koder2016 10y ago
    What? I don't know a single developer out of ~10 across multiple companies that would have to work more than 8 hours plus 1hour lunch break. Outside of London you get 37.5 hours weeks. Hell, I know contractors who work 1-2 days a week from home! But yeah, the money is crap mostly.
• werty1 10y ago
  The UK doesn't really value software. Costs of living are lower outside of London somewhat, but not in anywhere you can get a decent software job. Shorter working hours doesn't really apply. Yes, we may be paid for 40 hours, but we still have tons to do. At the companies I've worked at not a single dev works less than 10 hours per day, not to mention the out of hours work that needs to be done. Longer vacations - well on paper, but you don't always get to take them. Working on holiday isn't time off it's still work. This is different at larger institutions, but larger institutions don't have a problem paying competitive salaries.