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Umm... Of course they're graduating with no professional coding experience. The entire point is they don't have professional experience yet. What the hell do

by zzalpha 10y ago

Umm... Of course they're graduating with no professional coding experience. The entire point is they don't have professional experience yet. What the hell do you expect them to do? They have to start somewhere. Do chemical companies refuse to hire newly graduated chemical engineers who don't have professional chemical engineering experience? That doesn't even make sense.

drakonandor 10y ago
Projects. Internships. I would never hire a graduate without at least some combination of those. Typically, getting a 'real' internship requires projects anyway so we can just say internship experience. And yes, good chem E candidates have internship or project experience, in conjunction with decent grades to show they understand the theory.
- ipnon 10y ago
  How is your company doing overall?
arrosenberg 10y ago
Chemical companies would absolutely refuse to hire a newly graduated chemical engineer who gained no practical experience during their time in college. Same deal with CS grads (or really any discipline for that matter).
sotojuan 10y ago
> What the hell do you expect them to do? They have to start somewhere. Internships are the best way, but open source and personal projects... anything like that works. In a perfect world companies would train new grads and stuff, and we can fight and ask for that, but for now it pays off to have something to show your skill. If I hadn't started teaching myself stuff and coding my own projects after class, I'd probably still be unemployed (I went to a college without a good CS-job network).
rglovejoy 10y ago
Don't they have internships in the UK?
throwmeOct7 10y ago
Does co-op not exist any more? This is what I did. After my freshman year at Virginia Tech, I alternated between working a semester and going to school a semester. There wasn an entire university office dedicated to this (co-op program). So, I never had any "time off" months from the day I started to the time I graduated. I worked at a software company in Blacksburg, I stuck with the same company the whole time. I made close to minimum wage, but I was a programmer. I was getting paid to do object-oriented design and implementation. It did take a little longer to graduate, but I had fewer student loans. edit: and I had 5 job offers when I graduated

by zzalpha 10y ago

drakonandor 10y ago

Projects. Internships. I would never hire a graduate without at least some combination of those. Typically, getting a 'real' internship requires projects anyway so we can just say internship experience. And yes, good chem E candidates have internship or project experience, in conjunction with decent grades to show they understand the theory.

ipnon 10y ago
How is your company doing overall?

arrosenberg 10y ago

Chemical companies would absolutely refuse to hire a newly graduated chemical engineer who gained no practical experience during their time in college. Same deal with CS grads (or really any discipline for that matter).

sotojuan 10y ago

> What the hell do you expect them to do? They have to start somewhere. Internships are the best way, but open source and personal projects... anything like that works. In a perfect world companies would train new grads and stuff, and we can fight and ask for that, but for now it pays off to have something to show your skill. If I hadn't started teaching myself stuff and coding my own projects after class, I'd probably still be unemployed (I went to a college without a good CS-job network).

rglovejoy 10y ago

Don't they have internships in the UK?

throwmeOct7 10y ago

Does co-op not exist any more? This is what I did. After my freshman year at Virginia Tech, I alternated between working a semester and going to school a semester. There wasn an entire university office dedicated to this (co-op program). So, I never had any "time off" months from the day I started to the time I graduated. I worked at a software company in Blacksburg, I stuck with the same company the whole time. I made close to minimum wage, but I was a programmer. I was getting paid to do object-oriented design and implementation. It did take a little longer to graduate, but I had fewer student loans. edit: and I had 5 job offers when I graduated