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> If you're British you're likely to have a bias but less so. Explain to me again why if you're British you're less likely to have a bias? > A British citizen

by oneloop 10y ago

> If you're British you're likely to have a bias but less so. Explain to me again why if you're British you're less likely to have a bias? > A British citizen-only would not have a conflict of interest as such. Ah, so it's not that British citizens don't have a bias, it's that they have a bias in the direction that interests you. Very different.

neximo64 10y ago
Replace bias with conflict of interest. Pardon my English isn't great. The meaning didn't come of so well. Everyone is likely to have a bias to their political view, but a conflict of interest is one where you're incentives are conflicted. Someone who is European in Britain is very likely not a Brexiter, and that's where the conflict becomes very evident. Don't forget its a Brexiter government and it is a political decision that has already been made. A British Citizen cannot have a bias against himself? I'm a bit dumbfounded by the logic that they would be against themselves.
- rchaud 10y ago
  48% of voters voted against Brexit. Even with an all-British advisory team, how do you reduce conflict of interest without first checking that all advisors are not just British, but also voted in favour of Brexit?
  - neximo64 10y ago
    So let me give a picture, because i'm not fully at grasp with where a Remainer would sabotage themselves. The government is negotiating trade tariffs with the German government on automobiles. Would a remainer or a German national be more likely to align to German government interests? It is a clear conflict of interest, yet for the British academic s/he has no incentives to align to German interests, since they only have everything to gain to align with UK government interests and nothing on the other side.. Of course on the passionate issue of migration i could expect a different outcome since there is an incentive for a British citizen to have open borders, but this is a smaller part of the bulk part of the treaties which are very large. I'm not sure how they will do that, hopefully they use a bit of balance though. I would hate them all be Brexiters
jacoblambda 10y ago
Well that is not necessarily fair. If the matter is of Britain's future, it is not necessarily that the british citizens have biases as much as they would be in theory only acting in the interests of british citizens, ie themselves.
werty1 10y ago
>Explain to me again why if you're British you're less likely to have a bias? You won't fear being deported. >Ah, so it's not that British citizens don't have a bias, it's that they have a bias in the direction that interests you. Very different. Not so black and white.A lot of British want the EU, but not for economics, that's far too drab and requires genuine research and care. We want easy access to foreign lands where we can get drunk, and bask in the sun. On a side note, I don't really believe it will be useful leaving the EU. I would prefer reform and greater decentralisation. Even if it is failing, we can't promote positive reform from the outside.
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by oneloop 10y ago

neximo64 10y ago

Replace bias with conflict of interest. Pardon my English isn't great. The meaning didn't come of so well. Everyone is likely to have a bias to their political view, but a conflict of interest is one where you're incentives are conflicted. Someone who is European in Britain is very likely not a Brexiter, and that's where the conflict becomes very evident. Don't forget its a Brexiter government and it is a political decision that has already been made. A British Citizen cannot have a bias against himself? I'm a bit dumbfounded by the logic that they would be against themselves.

rchaud 10y ago
48% of voters voted against Brexit. Even with an all-British advisory team, how do you reduce conflict of interest without first checking that all advisors are not just British, but also voted in favour of Brexit?
- neximo64 10y ago
  So let me give a picture, because i'm not fully at grasp with where a Remainer would sabotage themselves. The government is negotiating trade tariffs with the German government on automobiles. Would a remainer or a German national be more likely to align to German government interests? It is a clear conflict of interest, yet for the British academic s/he has no incentives to align to German interests, since they only have everything to gain to align with UK government interests and nothing on the other side.. Of course on the passionate issue of migration i could expect a different outcome since there is an incentive for a British citizen to have open borders, but this is a smaller part of the bulk part of the treaties which are very large. I'm not sure how they will do that, hopefully they use a bit of balance though. I would hate them all be Brexiters

jacoblambda 10y ago

Well that is not necessarily fair. If the matter is of Britain's future, it is not necessarily that the british citizens have biases as much as they would be in theory only acting in the interests of british citizens, ie themselves.

werty1 10y ago

>Explain to me again why if you're British you're less likely to have a bias? You won't fear being deported. >Ah, so it's not that British citizens don't have a bias, it's that they have a bias in the direction that interests you. Very different. Not so black and white.A lot of British want the EU, but not for economics, that's far too drab and requires genuine research and care. We want easy access to foreign lands where we can get drunk, and bask in the sun. On a side note, I don't really believe it will be useful leaving the EU. I would prefer reform and greater decentralisation. Even if it is failing, we can't promote positive reform from the outside.

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