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It's not about successful communication, it's about how you present an entire group of people. Using the term "the blacks" or "Blacks" makes you sound like Arch

It's not about successful communication, it's about how you present an entire group of people. Using the term "the blacks" or "Blacks" makes you sound like Archie Bunker, dude. Negative social signal.

kolbe 10y ago
Maybe the goal is to send a specific type of social signal so people like you can self-select themselves out of his life? The term isn't pejorative. So, chill out.
- st3v3r 10y ago
  It kinda is.
  - umanwizard 10y ago
    Is "Whites" pejorative? Is "Latinos" pejorative? Why is "<noun>" more pejorative than "<adjective> + people" ?
    - gspetr 10y ago
      Because we're in that cycle of history now. It's more pejorative for the same reason that "White Pride" has negative connotations in today's society while "Black Pride", "Asian Pride", "Gay Pride" have positive. Hate it or love it, it is what it is.
    - st3v3r 10y ago
      I'm sorry, but only someone with absolutely no appreciation of historical context would ask such a silly question.
      - umanwizard 10y ago
        Can you elaborate?
mbostleman 10y ago
Actually it makes you hear Archie Bunker. How and why you make associations is up to you, not others.
oh_sigh 10y ago
Maybe you just have an unconscious bias against blacks, and therefore think that "blacks" sounds bad. If I said "Whites outnumber african americans in the US 5:1", would you be offended?
- yolesaber 10y ago
  If I fucked your dad, would you jerk off?
  - oh_sigh 10y ago
    Yes. I would do that even if you didn't fuck my dad though. Also, for your sake, I hope you're into necrophilia.
gspetr 10y ago
Yet people spend time leaving comments like your grandparent, deliberately virtue signaling. I can bet dollars to doughnuts that if someone said "Whites" he would not have left a comment "More white people".
- to3m 10y ago
  1. It was 3 words... trust me, it didn't take long to write 2. The comment would be "More white people" - note the emphasis, it's kind of the key thing 3. I always heard virtue was a good thing. And here I am displaying it, you say. With you... in opposition? But, please, do what you think best.
  - gspetr 10y ago
    There at least 3 more comments using "whites" in this HN news item, why have you not corrected those? Why did only black people get special treatment?
    - yolesaber 10y ago
      >Why did only black people get special treatment? White people weren't / aren't systemically discriminated against since before the founding of this country. come on son, log off lesswrong and learn some social context.

kolbe 10y ago

Maybe the goal is to send a specific type of social signal so people like you can self-select themselves out of his life? The term isn't pejorative. So, chill out.

st3v3r 10y ago
It kinda is.
- umanwizard 10y ago
  Is "Whites" pejorative? Is "Latinos" pejorative? Why is "<noun>" more pejorative than "<adjective> + people" ?
  - gspetr 10y ago
    Because we're in that cycle of history now. It's more pejorative for the same reason that "White Pride" has negative connotations in today's society while "Black Pride", "Asian Pride", "Gay Pride" have positive. Hate it or love it, it is what it is.
  - st3v3r 10y ago
    I'm sorry, but only someone with absolutely no appreciation of historical context would ask such a silly question.
    - umanwizard 10y ago
      Can you elaborate?

mbostleman 10y ago

Actually it makes you hear Archie Bunker. How and why you make associations is up to you, not others.

oh_sigh 10y ago

Maybe you just have an unconscious bias against blacks, and therefore think that "blacks" sounds bad. If I said "Whites outnumber african americans in the US 5:1", would you be offended?

yolesaber 10y ago
If I fucked your dad, would you jerk off?
- oh_sigh 10y ago
  Yes. I would do that even if you didn't fuck my dad though. Also, for your sake, I hope you're into necrophilia.

gspetr 10y ago

Yet people spend time leaving comments like your grandparent, deliberately virtue signaling. I can bet dollars to doughnuts that if someone said "Whites" he would not have left a comment "More white people".

to3m 10y ago
1. It was 3 words... trust me, it didn't take long to write 2. The comment would be "More white people" - note the emphasis, it's kind of the key thing 3. I always heard virtue was a good thing. And here I am displaying it, you say. With you... in opposition? But, please, do what you think best.
- gspetr 10y ago
  There at least 3 more comments using "whites" in this HN news item, why have you not corrected those? Why did only black people get special treatment?
  - yolesaber 10y ago
    >Why did only black people get special treatment? White people weren't / aren't systemically discriminated against since before the founding of this country. come on son, log off lesswrong and learn some social context.