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I could be swayed that iOS is easier to target than some other browsers but Chrome? You can definitely build a slider natively... Maybe the confusion is that C

by zajd 10y ago

I could be swayed that iOS is easier to target than some other browsers but Chrome? You can definitely build a slider natively... Maybe the confusion is that Chrome =/= Android Browser

madeofpalk 10y ago
> You can definitely build a slider natively... Nope http://caniuse.com/#search=snap http://caniuse.com/#search=snap
- sgtpepper43 10y ago
  "Build natively" means to create it yourself in vanilla JavaScript, like this http://meandmax.github.io/lory/ http://meandmax.github.io/lory/. What's the use of a native element that only one browser has when you need cross browser support anyway?
  - madeofpalk 10y ago
    "Natively" as in 2 lines of CSS rather than yet another JS dependency. The cool thinks about CSS Snap Points is that they fall back rather gracefully on brothers that don't support them to just standard overflow scrolling.
    - zajd 10y ago
      Well that's not what native means. Beyond that, the issue isn't that Safari is not implementing HTML5 features fast enough, it's that they are choosing to not implement specific ones in order to protect their platform. You just don't see that from other browser vendors (today)
  - jakelazaroff 10y ago
    Isn't that the point of this article? I don't think it's fair to criticize Apple for lagging HTML5 support in iOS, then say "what's the use of this element?" when it cuts the other way.
    - zajd 10y ago
      The criticism isn't that they are lagging HTML5 support in iOS(although it would be valid- that's no reason to sue), it's that they are specifically avoiding parts of the implementation to protect their platform. Things like full screen support, notifications, etc
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- zajd 10y ago
  You don't need snap to build a slider natively. Also interestingly snap is NOT supported when Safari is rendering stuff in a different app, only when you're actually in the Safari App.
  - madeofpalk 10y ago
    As the note says, WKWebView is an embeddable web view for apps. This is what iOS Chrome uses FWIW.
    - pier25 10y ago
      Doh, that is precisely the whole problem being discussed here. WKWebView is a mess just like UIWebView.

by zajd 10y ago

I could be swayed that iOS is easier to target than some other browsers but Chrome? You can definitely build a slider natively... Maybe the confusion is that Chrome =/= Android Browser

madeofpalk 10y ago

> You can definitely build a slider natively... Nope http://caniuse.com/#search=snap http://caniuse.com/#search=snap

sgtpepper43 10y ago
"Build natively" means to create it yourself in vanilla JavaScript, like this http://meandmax.github.io/lory/ http://meandmax.github.io/lory/. What's the use of a native element that only one browser has when you need cross browser support anyway?
- madeofpalk 10y ago
  "Natively" as in 2 lines of CSS rather than yet another JS dependency. The cool thinks about CSS Snap Points is that they fall back rather gracefully on brothers that don't support them to just standard overflow scrolling.
  - zajd 10y ago
    Well that's not what native means. Beyond that, the issue isn't that Safari is not implementing HTML5 features fast enough, it's that they are choosing to not implement specific ones in order to protect their platform. You just don't see that from other browser vendors (today)
- jakelazaroff 10y ago
  Isn't that the point of this article? I don't think it's fair to criticize Apple for lagging HTML5 support in iOS, then say "what's the use of this element?" when it cuts the other way.
  - zajd 10y ago
    The criticism isn't that they are lagging HTML5 support in iOS(although it would be valid- that's no reason to sue), it's that they are specifically avoiding parts of the implementation to protect their platform. Things like full screen support, notifications, etc
    - deleted 10y ago
      [deleted]
zajd 10y ago
You don't need snap to build a slider natively. Also interestingly snap is NOT supported when Safari is rendering stuff in a different app, only when you're actually in the Safari App.
- madeofpalk 10y ago
  As the note says, WKWebView is an embeddable web view for apps. This is what iOS Chrome uses FWIW.
  - pier25 10y ago
    Doh, that is precisely the whole problem being discussed here. WKWebView is a mess just like UIWebView.