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Remember when Apple was bashing Adobe for Flash and how they were about standards? (I'm going to get downvoted for this) Anyways you were a fool for believing

by keyle 10y ago

Remember when Apple was bashing Adobe for Flash and how they were about standards? (I'm going to get downvoted for this) Anyways you were a fool for believing it.

koonsolo 10y ago
Yes, exactly my thoughts as well. Good thing you said it first :).
madeofpalk 10y ago
Blackberry CEO back in 2010[0]: For those of us who live outside of Apple’s distortion field, we know that 7-inch tablets will actually be a big portion of the market and we know that Adobe Flash support actually matters to customers who want a real web experience. We also know that while Apple’s attempt to control the ecosystem and maintain a closed platform may be good for Apple, developers want more options and customers want to fully access the overwhelming majority of web sites that use Flash. Adobe, 12 months ago[1]: Adobe said that it will now "encourage content creators to build with ne web standards," such as HTML5, rather than Flash. [0]: http://daringfireball.net/linked/2016/09/30/balsillie-2010 http://daringfireball.net/linked/2016/09/30/balsillie-2010 [1]: https://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2015/11/flash-html5-and-open-web-standards.html?scid=social_20151201_55826586&adbid=671559505906282496&adbpl=tw&adbpr=63786611 https://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2015/11/flash-html5-an...
- pier25 10y ago
  You are missing the point. Of course Flash was/is terrible, and not only for mobile phones. But what keyle is pointing out is the irony of Apple arguing against Flash for being a proprietary and non standard technology, praising HTML5, and now relegating HTML5 as a second class technology in iOS.
publicfig 10y ago
Apple bashing Adobe was for much more than standards, but for keeping aspects out of their mobile browser that they felt caused either security or performance issues. I feel that their stance on this is honestly fairly consistant with that.
- fenomas 10y ago
  Well, Apple was bashing Adobe for anything and everything. I remember they bashed Adobe for being late to finish moving to Cocoa, at a time when some core Apple products hadn't moved yet (e.g. Finder, IIRC).
simonh 10y ago
I remember Google I/O 2010 when Google made a big push to drive Flash support as a differentiator for Android, but every single attempt to demo Flash on a mobile device crashed it.

by keyle 10y ago

Remember when Apple was bashing Adobe for Flash and how they were about standards? (I'm going to get downvoted for this) Anyways you were a fool for believing it.

koonsolo 10y ago

Yes, exactly my thoughts as well. Good thing you said it first :).

madeofpalk 10y ago

Blackberry CEO back in 2010[0]: For those of us who live outside of Apple’s distortion field, we know that 7-inch tablets will actually be a big portion of the market and we know that Adobe Flash support actually matters to customers who want a real web experience. We also know that while Apple’s attempt to control the ecosystem and maintain a closed platform may be good for Apple, developers want more options and customers want to fully access the overwhelming majority of web sites that use Flash. Adobe, 12 months ago[1]: Adobe said that it will now "encourage content creators to build with ne web standards," such as HTML5, rather than Flash. [0]: http://daringfireball.net/linked/2016/09/30/balsillie-2010 http://daringfireball.net/linked/2016/09/30/balsillie-2010 [1]: https://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2015/11/flash-html5-and-open-web-standards.html?scid=social_20151201_55826586&adbid=671559505906282496&adbpl=tw&adbpr=63786611 https://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2015/11/flash-html5-an...

pier25 10y ago
You are missing the point. Of course Flash was/is terrible, and not only for mobile phones. But what keyle is pointing out is the irony of Apple arguing against Flash for being a proprietary and non standard technology, praising HTML5, and now relegating HTML5 as a second class technology in iOS.

publicfig 10y ago

Apple bashing Adobe was for much more than standards, but for keeping aspects out of their mobile browser that they felt caused either security or performance issues. I feel that their stance on this is honestly fairly consistant with that.

fenomas 10y ago
Well, Apple was bashing Adobe for anything and everything. I remember they bashed Adobe for being late to finish moving to Cocoa, at a time when some core Apple products hadn't moved yet (e.g. Finder, IIRC).

simonh 10y ago

I remember Google I/O 2010 when Google made a big push to drive Flash support as a differentiator for Android, but every single attempt to demo Flash on a mobile device crashed it.