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Dunning-Kruger right here folks.

by abritinthebay 10y ago

EpicEng 10y ago
Good one. Trite comments like yours always make for good discussion. Care to elaborate on why you think I'm wrong?
- abritinthebay 10y ago
  That would take a novel. The overarching theme would end up being that you don't know as much about front-end development as you apparently think you do. Which is what I said in the first place anyhow.
  - EpicEng 10y ago
    So, another non-response response. I don't think you have a leg to stand on and you just enjoy feeling superior (for no good reason as far as I can tell.)
    - jhall1468 10y ago
      So far everything I've seen you post has been either a humblebrag or a serious need to feel superior to those of us that do the "easy" work. How much are the big 4 paying those of us that don't have hard jobs?
      - Chris2048 10y ago
        > How much are the big 4 paying those of us that don't have hard jobs? Expect the gravy train to end eventually. I feel the web-dev scene is already too competitive.
        jhall1468 10y ago
        Good engineers will always be paid extremely well, regardless of what their domain is. Web dev is competitive at the low end of the market, but certainly not so at the high end.
        thesmallestcat 10y ago
        This is sort of naive. Two truths: (1) Companies have a hard time finding people with decent CS knowledge, and (2) you can get to the top (or near it) of the web dev field with little to no CS knowledge. This is why you hear the chorus of "I've never ever needed to use/think about $CS_TOPIC" when this discussion comes up. The upper end of web development is hyper-competitive and trend-driven because CS knowledge is an insufficiently differentiating factor for productivity and work quality, which means that anybody with good intuition and memory can reach the top quickly.
        jhall1468 10y ago
        > Companies have a hard time finding people with decent CS knowledge Agreed. > you can get to the top (or near it) of the web dev field with little to no CS knowledge. That depends on what your definition of top is. A person with little to no CS knowledge won't be working for any of the big 4. They won't work for any of the top tech firms because they will never make it passed the tech interview. Unfortunately the term "web developer" is fairly broad. Its so inclusive that a designer that can struggle their way through jquery will frequently be lumped in with an engineer at Facebook working on React.
sctb 10y ago
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- abritinthebay 10y ago
  Oh please, you just confirm what the industry already knows about HN Such a joke.

Dunning-Kruger right here folks.

EpicEng 10y ago

Good one. Trite comments like yours always make for good discussion. Care to elaborate on why you think I'm wrong?

abritinthebay 10y ago
That would take a novel. The overarching theme would end up being that you don't know as much about front-end development as you apparently think you do. Which is what I said in the first place anyhow.
- EpicEng 10y ago
  So, another non-response response. I don't think you have a leg to stand on and you just enjoy feeling superior (for no good reason as far as I can tell.)
  - jhall1468 10y ago
    So far everything I've seen you post has been either a humblebrag or a serious need to feel superior to those of us that do the "easy" work. How much are the big 4 paying those of us that don't have hard jobs?
    - Chris2048 10y ago
      > How much are the big 4 paying those of us that don't have hard jobs? Expect the gravy train to end eventually. I feel the web-dev scene is already too competitive.
      - jhall1468 10y ago
        Good engineers will always be paid extremely well, regardless of what their domain is. Web dev is competitive at the low end of the market, but certainly not so at the high end.
        thesmallestcat 10y ago
        This is sort of naive. Two truths: (1) Companies have a hard time finding people with decent CS knowledge, and (2) you can get to the top (or near it) of the web dev field with little to no CS knowledge. This is why you hear the chorus of "I've never ever needed to use/think about $CS_TOPIC" when this discussion comes up. The upper end of web development is hyper-competitive and trend-driven because CS knowledge is an insufficiently differentiating factor for productivity and work quality, which means that anybody with good intuition and memory can reach the top quickly.
        jhall1468 10y ago
        > Companies have a hard time finding people with decent CS knowledge Agreed. > you can get to the top (or near it) of the web dev field with little to no CS knowledge. That depends on what your definition of top is. A person with little to no CS knowledge won't be working for any of the big 4. They won't work for any of the top tech firms because they will never make it passed the tech interview. Unfortunately the term "web developer" is fairly broad. Its so inclusive that a designer that can struggle their way through jquery will frequently be lumped in with an engineer at Facebook working on React.

sctb 10y ago

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12657534 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12657534 and marked it off-topic. Please comment civilly and substantively or not at all.

abritinthebay 10y ago
Oh please, you just confirm what the industry already knows about HN Such a joke.