4 ms·

So does this make my data with them fall under the category of American companies and is not subject to warrant less searches? Or only their VA data center?

toomuchtodo 10y ago
Based on a Microsoft ruling, I believe only their US data center. As always, take measures to keep your data out of the US if it's important to you. http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/07/19/business/dealbook/microsoft-case-shows-the-limits-of-a-data-privacy-law.html http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/07/19/business/dealbook/micro...
- IgorPartola 10y ago
  Out or in? Because if it's out, it's subject to the warrantless searches, right? But if it's in, the company can be compelled to give the NSA access?
  - seszett 10y ago
    If it's out of the US, the US don't have jurisdiction and I don't see them breaking into OVH's datacenters in France anytime soon to get to your data. If they really want to access it and are doing covert operations I don't think being in the US will stop them. I might be naive, but as far as I know there's no question that data is always safer if it stays in datacenters in Europe rather than in the US (which is why OVH is going to great lengths to separate their US entity as much as possible from the French one, and also why their first step in North America was Canada and not the US).
    - IgorPartola 10y ago
      I suppose my communication with the server would be encrypted, but wouldn't the NSA try to store all the back and forth transfers between my US-based laptop and my OVH server in France?
      - toomuchtodo 10y ago
        They could, which is why all of your communications between you and your OVH server should use high grade encryption (SSH, SSL, etc).
math0ne 10y ago
I'm definitely questioning this decision because I believe a lot of their business comes from people doing some pretty questionable things with copyright. Might open up some of the larger video hosts that work with them to the scrutiny of US authorities. I wouldn't worry about a personal seed box, but some pretty big video hosts work with them closely.
derefr 10y ago
Speaking of: are the non-US AWS regions subject to warrantless searches? Or are they technically their own "companies"?
r1ch 10y ago
They made a good post addressing this. https://www.ovh.co.uk/news/articles/a2294.how-ovh-expand-in-the-usa-while-preserving-its-european-identity https://www.ovh.co.uk/news/articles/a2294.how-ovh-expand-in-...

toomuchtodo 10y ago

Based on a Microsoft ruling, I believe only their US data center. As always, take measures to keep your data out of the US if it's important to you. http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/07/19/business/dealbook/microsoft-case-shows-the-limits-of-a-data-privacy-law.html http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/07/19/business/dealbook/micro...

IgorPartola 10y ago
Out or in? Because if it's out, it's subject to the warrantless searches, right? But if it's in, the company can be compelled to give the NSA access?
- seszett 10y ago
  If it's out of the US, the US don't have jurisdiction and I don't see them breaking into OVH's datacenters in France anytime soon to get to your data. If they really want to access it and are doing covert operations I don't think being in the US will stop them. I might be naive, but as far as I know there's no question that data is always safer if it stays in datacenters in Europe rather than in the US (which is why OVH is going to great lengths to separate their US entity as much as possible from the French one, and also why their first step in North America was Canada and not the US).
  - IgorPartola 10y ago
    I suppose my communication with the server would be encrypted, but wouldn't the NSA try to store all the back and forth transfers between my US-based laptop and my OVH server in France?
    - toomuchtodo 10y ago
      They could, which is why all of your communications between you and your OVH server should use high grade encryption (SSH, SSL, etc).

math0ne 10y ago

I'm definitely questioning this decision because I believe a lot of their business comes from people doing some pretty questionable things with copyright. Might open up some of the larger video hosts that work with them to the scrutiny of US authorities. I wouldn't worry about a personal seed box, but some pretty big video hosts work with them closely.

derefr 10y ago

Speaking of: are the non-US AWS regions subject to warrantless searches? Or are they technically their own "companies"?

r1ch 10y ago

They made a good post addressing this. https://www.ovh.co.uk/news/articles/a2294.how-ovh-expand-in-the-usa-while-preserving-its-european-identity https://www.ovh.co.uk/news/articles/a2294.how-ovh-expand-in-...