Bluchers/derbies and brogues are orthogonal, e.g.: brogue derby: http://leathersoul.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/mad1.jpg http://leathersoul.com/wp-content/u

Bluchers/derbies and brogues are orthogonal, e.g.: brogue derby: http://leathersoul.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/mad1.jpg http://leathersoul.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/mad1.jpg brogue oxford: http://blog.loake.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Buckingham.jpg http://blog.loake.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Buckingha... Those shoes are definitely bluchers and definitely not brogues, though.