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She mentions to make an effort towards diversity at the end. As a latino, diversity for diversity sake never made sense to me. What am I a lego piece or someth
by sergiotapia 10y ago
She mentions to make an effort towards diversity at the end.
As a latino, diversity for diversity sake never made sense to me. What am I a lego piece or something? Meritocracy.
- romanovcode 10y agoSame here, it's not like you're re-populating the planet where diversity is important.
- carapace 10y agoEven if you're not into diversity for it's own sake, there's still the situation where someone who merits it less gets a job over someone who merits it more, due to their ethnicity.
- girvo 10y agoDiversity of experiences and opinions are good, in my opinion, because they allow problems to be approached in ways that I wouldn't otherwise have considered, if it was a singular mono-culture.
- atom-morgan 10y agoBut diversity in tech usually revolves around skin color, gender, and sexual orientation.
- aplusbi 10y agoWhich is a very, very good proxy for diversity of experience and opinion.
- brighteyes 10y agoIt might be, but political affiliation, religion, and age would be equally good proxies. But these aspects rarely if at all get addressed.
- atom-morgan 10y agoAsk Brendon Eich, Douglas Crockford, Palmer Luckey, and Curtis Yarvin.
- MustardTiger 10y agoNo it isn't. In fact, almost all of the "diverse" teams I see are a monoculture of opinion. They are all people who buy the standard SJW nonsense fully and hate anyone who doesn't. They actively try to stamp out diversity of opinion.
- ManlyBread 10y agoI can't wait to work in environment where we can have conflicts over these things instead of focusing on actual work.
- xor1 10y agoAlways found this odd when class is the biggest workplace demarcation in the US.
- FT_intern 10y agoI don't think "diverse" experiences and opinions (at least the ones related to race and gender) matter as a software engineer. Race/gender does not affect the experiences and opinions that do matter. The ones that do matter are related to topics like specific technology backgrounds (PhD in distributed systems vs. machine learning), functional vs. OOP, Java vs. C++, etc. It might matter to a small degree in product management, although technically every little detail can matter. Race/gender are also poor boundaries to segment for diverse experiences and opinions. Upper middle class, liberal black people benefit the most from affirmative action. They aren't much different from upper middle class white people. Software engineering is already diverse by the most divisive measure: by country of origin which completely eclipses differences between races and genders.
- mining 10y ago> Race/gender does not affect the experiences and opinions that do matter. How about things like (the admittedly heavily-used) example of Apple's health app lacking a period tracker?
- FT_intern 10y agoThat's a project management issue, not a software engineering one
- oarsinsync 10y ago> Software engineering is already diverse by the most divisive measure: by country of origin which completely eclipses differences between races and genders. That would suggest that there is no need for gender diversity in international politics, and that a group of men, each representing their own country, provides all the necessary diversity needed. > That's a project management issue, not a software engineering one Software engineers should be involved in project design. Coder monkeys can get away with "I code what I'm told without providing any further input to anything else".
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- oldmanjay 10y agoThe notion that all white men form a monoculture is just as racist and sexist as the notion that only white men are suited for engineering
- tomp 10y agoA white man from Alaska and a white man from Rio de Jainero will have much more diverse experiences than a man and a woman from San Francisco.