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Don't you think that's part of the reason the West is averse to the hijab? Precisely because women have fought for years to be free from men micromanaging their

by namlem 10y ago

Don't you think that's part of the reason the West is averse to the hijab? Precisely because women have fought for years to be free from men micromanaging their bodies and behavior, the hijab stands out as a symbol of oppression. That's all that Iran is doing with its mandatory modesty laws: oppressing women. Yes, it happens in the West too, albeit to a much lesser degree, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't call it out when it happens elsewhere.

DanBC 10y ago
Obviously forcing people to wear a hijab is wrong. Is it acceptable to ban hijabs? > Don't you think that's part of the reason the West is averse to the hijab? Some of the West. Other parts of the west are fine with it. http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p02vk6bj/high-street-hijabis http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p02vk6bj/high-street-hi...
- ethanbond 10y ago
  Where in this article is there any reference to banning the hijab? This article is about not requiring the hijab.
hackuser 10y ago
> the hijab stands out as a symbol of oppression I agree that many people in the West have made it a symbol (that was a major point of what I wrote). And I strongly agree that women should wear what they want. But I think that by making it a symbol, we create more problems: * It's become part of the narrative used by hateful and scared people to promote the dangerous, oppressive prejudice against Muslim people. Inflaming that evil is dangerous and leads directly to harm for a very large number of people. * Many people feel so strongly about the symbol that now they impose their view of the hajib on the same women, forcing them not to wear it (which is law now in some places in the West). That's no better than forcing them to wear it. Everyone needs to stop telling women what to wear. Hyping up this symbol isn't helping, it's doing more harm. > Yes, it happens in the West too, albeit to a much lesser degree, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't call it out when it happens elsewhere. I agree on all points.

by namlem 10y ago

DanBC 10y ago

Obviously forcing people to wear a hijab is wrong. Is it acceptable to ban hijabs? > Don't you think that's part of the reason the West is averse to the hijab? Some of the West. Other parts of the west are fine with it. http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p02vk6bj/high-street-hijabis http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p02vk6bj/high-street-hi...

ethanbond 10y ago
Where in this article is there any reference to banning the hijab? This article is about not requiring the hijab.

hackuser 10y ago

> the hijab stands out as a symbol of oppression I agree that many people in the West have made it a symbol (that was a major point of what I wrote). And I strongly agree that women should wear what they want. But I think that by making it a symbol, we create more problems: * It's become part of the narrative used by hateful and scared people to promote the dangerous, oppressive prejudice against Muslim people. Inflaming that evil is dangerous and leads directly to harm for a very large number of people. * Many people feel so strongly about the symbol that now they impose their view of the hajib on the same women, forcing them not to wear it (which is law now in some places in the West). That's no better than forcing them to wear it. Everyone needs to stop telling women what to wear. Hyping up this symbol isn't helping, it's doing more harm. > Yes, it happens in the West too, albeit to a much lesser degree, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't call it out when it happens elsewhere. I agree on all points.