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western culture is the only one that tend to respect foreign customs, while the reverse situation to happen is very rare. and there is a reason for that.

hackuser 10y ago
Westerners like to think that, but it's not true in my experience. Even in the multicultural U.S., think of the reception of every immigrant group: All were hated. Germans, Italians, Africans (EDIT: not that I'm suggesting they were ordinary, willing immigrants), Catholics, now Latinos ... Think of the attitude toward hajibs and Muslims in the U.S. and Europe - hardly accepting! Anyway, we're making very broad, baseless statements about the opinions of hundreds of millions of people. People in my own family don't even agree on these issues.
- vacri 10y ago
  And yet Europe has the Schengen area, where people are allowed to travel without requiring documentation, from Portugal to the far north of Sweden, despite some pretty different cultures. Where else in the world is there anything like Schengen? There's this massive myth that Europe is all one culture, and it's not (you may even have heard about a sizable war in the past century that was predicated on cultural differences).
  - hackuser 10y ago
    All countries have a variety of cultures. The U.S. has Alabama, New York City, Utah, Hawaii, the Bay Area, etc. You can always find a way to split people and set them against each other. There's the West; Europe and other Western nations; the UK and other countries; England, Scotland and Wales; London and the rest of England; different parts of London; different religions and ethnicities, the punks and the mods, etc, ad infinitum. But I don't see any purpose to that. You also can unite people and get great things done together, as 13 very different colonies did in 1789. Why choose fighting with that alternative? > you may even have heard about a sizable war in the past century that was predicated on cultural differences I disagree. The cause of the war was one country trying to conquer the other ones. And each side was composed of countries of different cultures and languages. Germany, Japan and Italy; and the U.S., Russia, France, China, etc. on the other side. And in fact, the EU was created to prevent another war; togetherness has succeeded: The idea of war inside the EU is now absurd.
legulere 10y ago
As a westerner you generally can do lots of things locals are not allowed to do by social rules. This is true in many places around the world.
- LanceH 10y ago
  As a westerner you are probably very well off and can do lots of things poor locals can't do. The rich may drink and carouse in ways that would shame a frat boy.
  - hackuser 10y ago
    Poor locals can't drink and carouse? Where do you live?
Lordarminius 10y ago
> western culture is the only one that tend to respect foreign customs Not true at all.
Cyph0n 10y ago
Let me give you an example of how much some countries revere the West, to the point of obsession. Saudi Aramco is the largest oil company in the world. It's base of operations is in Dhahran, a city in the eastern region of KSA. Aramco employs a ton of foreigners and of course want their employees to be as comfortable as possible. But this is difficult to do given KSA's strict culture. So what do they do? They build their employees an American-style suburban town outside of Dhahran proper, with its own schools, supermarkets, theatres, and so on. Women are allowed to drive within the town, and can wear whatever they want. The town is basically outside the jurisdiction of the Saudi religious police. This is just one example. Go to Dubai and you'll see similar things. Foreigners are sometimes respected at the expense of other Arabs or Asians, and it can become discriminatory in some instances. So next time you throw around such accusations, please think about it first.
- LoSboccacc 10y ago
  it was not an accusation, but you seems as sensitive as blind to the issue. > Women are allowed to drive within the town picking out an exception to show tolerance is quite disingenuous, isn't it? > Foreigners are sometimes respected at the expense of other Arabs or Asians, and it can become discriminatory in some instances. yes and that's because of a culture promoting conformism to one standard instead of tolerance of all. you're not bringing forward an example of tolerance, but extreme conformism, which kinda gets back to the original point: they manage to be intolerant even in their mimicry of western style of life. again, it's not about how one dresses, that's just extremely superficial to think. it's how you demand conformism, and it doesn't matter it's the hijab or the bikini, the crucial point is in the demand itself.
  - Cyph0n 10y ago
    No need to read between the lines, mate. Your argument is that non-Western countries don't respect Western tradition and culture, while the West does. I provided two counterexamples that demonstrate non-Western countries who are willing to accept Western values, and I can provide more if you like. Back to the hijab. No one is demanding that Westerners wear the hijab or whatever. All Muslim women are demanding is freedom to wear the hijab without being discriminated against. No one needs to build a Sharia city in America LOL

hackuser 10y ago

Westerners like to think that, but it's not true in my experience. Even in the multicultural U.S., think of the reception of every immigrant group: All were hated. Germans, Italians, Africans (EDIT: not that I'm suggesting they were ordinary, willing immigrants), Catholics, now Latinos ... Think of the attitude toward hajibs and Muslims in the U.S. and Europe - hardly accepting! Anyway, we're making very broad, baseless statements about the opinions of hundreds of millions of people. People in my own family don't even agree on these issues.

vacri 10y ago
And yet Europe has the Schengen area, where people are allowed to travel without requiring documentation, from Portugal to the far north of Sweden, despite some pretty different cultures. Where else in the world is there anything like Schengen? There's this massive myth that Europe is all one culture, and it's not (you may even have heard about a sizable war in the past century that was predicated on cultural differences).
- hackuser 10y ago
  All countries have a variety of cultures. The U.S. has Alabama, New York City, Utah, Hawaii, the Bay Area, etc. You can always find a way to split people and set them against each other. There's the West; Europe and other Western nations; the UK and other countries; England, Scotland and Wales; London and the rest of England; different parts of London; different religions and ethnicities, the punks and the mods, etc, ad infinitum. But I don't see any purpose to that. You also can unite people and get great things done together, as 13 very different colonies did in 1789. Why choose fighting with that alternative? > you may even have heard about a sizable war in the past century that was predicated on cultural differences I disagree. The cause of the war was one country trying to conquer the other ones. And each side was composed of countries of different cultures and languages. Germany, Japan and Italy; and the U.S., Russia, France, China, etc. on the other side. And in fact, the EU was created to prevent another war; togetherness has succeeded: The idea of war inside the EU is now absurd.

legulere 10y ago

As a westerner you generally can do lots of things locals are not allowed to do by social rules. This is true in many places around the world.

LanceH 10y ago
As a westerner you are probably very well off and can do lots of things poor locals can't do. The rich may drink and carouse in ways that would shame a frat boy.
- hackuser 10y ago
  Poor locals can't drink and carouse? Where do you live?

Lordarminius 10y ago

> western culture is the only one that tend to respect foreign customs Not true at all.

Cyph0n 10y ago

Let me give you an example of how much some countries revere the West, to the point of obsession. Saudi Aramco is the largest oil company in the world. It's base of operations is in Dhahran, a city in the eastern region of KSA. Aramco employs a ton of foreigners and of course want their employees to be as comfortable as possible. But this is difficult to do given KSA's strict culture. So what do they do? They build their employees an American-style suburban town outside of Dhahran proper, with its own schools, supermarkets, theatres, and so on. Women are allowed to drive within the town, and can wear whatever they want. The town is basically outside the jurisdiction of the Saudi religious police. This is just one example. Go to Dubai and you'll see similar things. Foreigners are sometimes respected at the expense of other Arabs or Asians, and it can become discriminatory in some instances. So next time you throw around such accusations, please think about it first.

LoSboccacc 10y ago
it was not an accusation, but you seems as sensitive as blind to the issue. > Women are allowed to drive within the town picking out an exception to show tolerance is quite disingenuous, isn't it? > Foreigners are sometimes respected at the expense of other Arabs or Asians, and it can become discriminatory in some instances. yes and that's because of a culture promoting conformism to one standard instead of tolerance of all. you're not bringing forward an example of tolerance, but extreme conformism, which kinda gets back to the original point: they manage to be intolerant even in their mimicry of western style of life. again, it's not about how one dresses, that's just extremely superficial to think. it's how you demand conformism, and it doesn't matter it's the hijab or the bikini, the crucial point is in the demand itself.
- Cyph0n 10y ago
  No need to read between the lines, mate. Your argument is that non-Western countries don't respect Western tradition and culture, while the West does. I provided two counterexamples that demonstrate non-Western countries who are willing to accept Western values, and I can provide more if you like. Back to the hijab. No one is demanding that Westerners wear the hijab or whatever. All Muslim women are demanding is freedom to wear the hijab without being discriminated against. No one needs to build a Sharia city in America LOL