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Also as an Iranian (which means nothing in the grand scheme of this conversation, which is precisely why I'm invoking my ethnic background), I stand by my state

by eganist 10y ago

Also as an Iranian (which means nothing in the grand scheme of this conversation, which is precisely why I'm invoking my ethnic background), I stand by my statement because in the end, a religious commitment to an idea--see what I did there?--can help a person rationalize something completely backwards. If you believe you have power by God's hand or by the hand of any other deity, you will justify keeping it through whatever means necessary because the circuitry involved in decision-making is not the same circuitry involved in reason.

0xFFC 10y ago
I do agree with your point. I believe there is nothing contrary about our points. My point was the rulers in Iran don't give fuck about any ideology and they are trying hard to use religious leverage in their benefits. But if I understood your point correctly, I do 100% agree. Believe in something as dangerous as God , will give people illusion (they will justify in their mind) of controling of other people. Because at the very end they think they are better than others. Update : I think there is no way to know which analysis is correct. Because at the very end in both analysis regime will do whatever they can to keep power. The only way to find out is to go through their mind. Which we cannot. In both analysis regime will do whatever they can. In my case they don't believe in any ideology just because of the power(they changed so many rules in Islam and they will change). In your case (if I understand correctly) they will try every thing because their religion gave them permission to do everything to keep power. If I should give specific answer, I would not say you are wrong. I would just say there is no way to find out.
- eganist 10y ago
  > Believe in something as dangerous as God , will give people illusion (they will justify in their mind) of controling of other people. Because at the very end they think they are better than others. :) Edit: > If I should give specific answer, I would not say you are wrong. I would just say there is no way to find out. I agree with this as well. We're all speculating, and in the end, it all manifests the same way.

by eganist 10y ago

0xFFC 10y ago

I do agree with your point. I believe there is nothing contrary about our points. My point was the rulers in Iran don't give fuck about any ideology and they are trying hard to use religious leverage in their benefits. But if I understood your point correctly, I do 100% agree. Believe in something as dangerous as God , will give people illusion (they will justify in their mind) of controling of other people. Because at the very end they think they are better than others. Update : I think there is no way to know which analysis is correct. Because at the very end in both analysis regime will do whatever they can to keep power. The only way to find out is to go through their mind. Which we cannot. In both analysis regime will do whatever they can. In my case they don't believe in any ideology just because of the power(they changed so many rules in Islam and they will change). In your case (if I understand correctly) they will try every thing because their religion gave them permission to do everything to keep power. If I should give specific answer, I would not say you are wrong. I would just say there is no way to find out.

eganist 10y ago
> Believe in something as dangerous as God , will give people illusion (they will justify in their mind) of controling of other people. Because at the very end they think they are better than others. :) Edit: > If I should give specific answer, I would not say you are wrong. I would just say there is no way to find out. I agree with this as well. We're all speculating, and in the end, it all manifests the same way.