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Also, a lot of things that were trivial before will now have a long series of dependencies.

• reitanqild 10y ago
  Heh. To each their own. I prefer having my dependencies listed in version control, automatically downloaded, having a tool that can tell me why dependency x is pulled in etc etc.
  • pawadu 10y ago
    Sure, this is all fine when things work correctly. So far, I actually agree with you. But once in a while something in the long chain of dependencies fails and after days of debugging you start thinking you should just have downloaded the *.jar files and copied them to libs/ manually. I think people (in general and not only limited to software development) should strive to minimize dependencies. Otherwise things like this can happen: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11340510 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11340510
    • reitanqild 10y ago
      > But once in a while something in the long chain of dependencies fails and after days of debugging you start thinking you should just have downloaded the *.jar files and copied them to libs/ manually. Can't you just check the difference between the last working and the first broken one? If necessary just unpack the last working jar/zip/war side-by-side the first broken and diff them. > I think people (in general and not only limited to software development) should strive to minimize dependencies. Here we totally agree. When I started at my current place we had a mix of spring, javaee, hibernate and whatnot. The size is currently down by almost 70% although a lot of that was also unused resources. My goal is just using javaee + a couple of utilities.