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At the time that I read it, by the end of the book, it was clear to me personally that the large disconnect between the Utopian world and the world of the "nati

At the time that I read it, by the end of the book, it was clear to me personally that the large disconnect between the Utopian world and the world of the "natives" was the same disconnect that I felt at the time with the described Utopian world. People grown in test tubes, bred to do and believe specific things, using various levels of oxygen to control their intelligence, orgies and perfume water in sinks being a normal thing- these were disgusting to me. If that sounds like Utopia to anyone, then something is seriously wrong.

golergka 10y ago
But it's only disguisting to you because you haven't been created for this world.
- catscratch 10y ago
  But see, you had the intelligence to read what I wrote and write that. What if someone were to have reduced the oxygen to your embryo so that you were an idiot and were happy but had no idea what I was talking about? That's ok to you? BNW was not meant to be a template for a future society. It's a story to get the reader to try to adjust to the norm of morally reprehensible behavior and then at the end smack them back to cold, hard reality.
  - eli_gottlieb 10y ago
    >What if someone were to have reduced the oxygen to your embryo so that you were an idiot and were happy but had no idea what I was talking about? That's ok to you? You mean kinda like how they put lead in the water in Flint, Michigan?
    - catscratch 10y ago
      No, I was just stating part of the story from the book. Man, there are a lot of people here that haven't read BNW!
      - eli_gottlieb 10y ago
        I've read the book. I was just comparing it to real life a bit.
  - PhasmaFelis 10y ago
    The problem is that, on top of all the actual nastiness like deliberately impairing embryos, the "norm of morally reprehensible behavior" includes some really problematic things. In the Brave New World, you can have sex without fear of disease, unwanted pregnancy, or religious censure--and we're clearly supposed to understand this as awful and depraved.

golergka 10y ago

But it's only disguisting to you because you haven't been created for this world.

catscratch 10y ago
But see, you had the intelligence to read what I wrote and write that. What if someone were to have reduced the oxygen to your embryo so that you were an idiot and were happy but had no idea what I was talking about? That's ok to you? BNW was not meant to be a template for a future society. It's a story to get the reader to try to adjust to the norm of morally reprehensible behavior and then at the end smack them back to cold, hard reality.
- eli_gottlieb 10y ago
  >What if someone were to have reduced the oxygen to your embryo so that you were an idiot and were happy but had no idea what I was talking about? That's ok to you? You mean kinda like how they put lead in the water in Flint, Michigan?
  - catscratch 10y ago
    No, I was just stating part of the story from the book. Man, there are a lot of people here that haven't read BNW!
    - eli_gottlieb 10y ago
      I've read the book. I was just comparing it to real life a bit.
- PhasmaFelis 10y ago
  The problem is that, on top of all the actual nastiness like deliberately impairing embryos, the "norm of morally reprehensible behavior" includes some really problematic things. In the Brave New World, you can have sex without fear of disease, unwanted pregnancy, or religious censure--and we're clearly supposed to understand this as awful and depraved.