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In their eyes, it's more like "we give you 70% of OUR sells in OUR platform, to OUR captive customers, they just happen to buy your App but they will buy someth

by molmalo 10y ago

In their eyes, it's more like "we give you 70% of OUR sells in OUR platform, to OUR captive customers, they just happen to buy your App but they will buy something else if we want to ban you..." It's a matter of perspective. In their eyes, they are being incredibly generous with that deal.

bobsil1 10y ago
Eh, without the apps the phone wouldn't sell in those numbers. In their eyes they are dependent on the devs.
- halestock 10y ago
  The iphone sold in those numbers even before there was an App Store.
  - fzzzy 10y ago
    No, it really didn't. The first iPhone was 2G and it was a year before the app store was available. https://www.statista.com/statistics/263401/global-apple-iphone-sales-since-3rd-quarter-2007/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/263401/global-apple-ipho...
- molmalo 10y ago
  That may be true at first, but when they have a huge part of the market... they could argue: "without our customers, you wouldn't have that many users". Kind of like a chicken and egg situation. When they already have such a large slice of the pie, they start to care mostly about the bigger app developers, and the small ones are just something they need to show big numbers, but they are not that important anymore... (Just to be clear: It's not that I think they are not important, it's what I perceive as their attitude when things like this happen)
- sossles 10y ago
  They are dependent on developers as a whole, but not on any individual developers (with perhaps a few exceptions).
pentae 10y ago
I own an app that pays social media celebrities to respond to fans, we pay them 60% of our profits. Apple broke their own app store rules stating we would be disqualified from IAP and forced us to use it. So after we pay out our partners of which our entire app exists, Apple are making 3x more money than we do from our own app. And take 2 months to pay us. Oh, and provide no transaction id's for unique customers so if one of them requests a refund or does a chargeback we have no way of tracking it back to his account. To say there's a culture of hatred towards Apple in our team is an understatement.
- kkarakk 10y ago
  are you the guys who pay celebs to advertise that random social media app on their snapchat/instagram with taglines like "more on [social media app i've never heard of and a chance to talk to me"? really amusing tactics that abuse the core fanbase's rabid enthusiasm for content from their favorite personalities. i never considered that the appstore is probably taking a lot of money from you too

by molmalo 10y ago

bobsil1 10y ago

Eh, without the apps the phone wouldn't sell in those numbers. In their eyes they are dependent on the devs.

halestock 10y ago
The iphone sold in those numbers even before there was an App Store.
- fzzzy 10y ago
  No, it really didn't. The first iPhone was 2G and it was a year before the app store was available. https://www.statista.com/statistics/263401/global-apple-iphone-sales-since-3rd-quarter-2007/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/263401/global-apple-ipho...
molmalo 10y ago
That may be true at first, but when they have a huge part of the market... they could argue: "without our customers, you wouldn't have that many users". Kind of like a chicken and egg situation. When they already have such a large slice of the pie, they start to care mostly about the bigger app developers, and the small ones are just something they need to show big numbers, but they are not that important anymore... (Just to be clear: It's not that I think they are not important, it's what I perceive as their attitude when things like this happen)
sossles 10y ago
They are dependent on developers as a whole, but not on any individual developers (with perhaps a few exceptions).

pentae 10y ago

I own an app that pays social media celebrities to respond to fans, we pay them 60% of our profits. Apple broke their own app store rules stating we would be disqualified from IAP and forced us to use it. So after we pay out our partners of which our entire app exists, Apple are making 3x more money than we do from our own app. And take 2 months to pay us. Oh, and provide no transaction id's for unique customers so if one of them requests a refund or does a chargeback we have no way of tracking it back to his account. To say there's a culture of hatred towards Apple in our team is an understatement.

kkarakk 10y ago
are you the guys who pay celebs to advertise that random social media app on their snapchat/instagram with taglines like "more on [social media app i've never heard of and a chance to talk to me"? really amusing tactics that abuse the core fanbase's rabid enthusiasm for content from their favorite personalities. i never considered that the appstore is probably taking a lot of money from you too