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> Women flat out effing dominate literature historically > women in literature are ... highly respected Let's suppose for a moment that this is true. What wo

> Women flat out effing dominate literature historically > women in literature are ... highly respected Let's suppose for a moment that this is true. What would be a useful way of testing this? One thing that comes to mind is the Nobel Literature prize. I found a list of female winners: https://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/lists/women.html https://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/lists/women.html and it appears that prior to Gordimer's winning in 1991 which opened some floodgates, women won in 1966, 1945, 1938, 1928, 1926, and 1909. That's six in 90 years.

6stringmerc 10y ago
You're not going back far enough. I'm referencing back to the 1700s or so when there was education in the English language that was outside of the Church, because it did take a while after the Black Plague killed off many of the literate Latin scholars to allow the use of written language to trickle down to Royalty and others, but I've seen enough over the years to know women have earned much respect in literature. Naming a couple names seems futile because distilling "influence" or "respect" into a spreadsheet is fucking bullshit, but being able to say Jane Austen or Mary Shelley or Harper Lee in educated company reflects that there are giants in the field that are reflected upon for the merit of their works.
- cafard 10y ago
  Respect is far from being domination.
- GFK_of_xmaspast 10y ago
  Is that the same Jane Austen who, quoting wiki, "Like many women writers, she chose to publish anonymously" and the same Mary Shelley who published the first edition of Frankenstein anonymously. (You also left out the Brontës, all of whom used male pen names, and, as mentioned elsewhere, Amantine-Lucile-Aurore Dupin, aka George Sand). (Also which "Black Plague" are you referring to here? Your mention of "the 1700s" makes me think you mean the one of 1665, but that strikes me as extremely late in the 'there are lots of works written in English' game).
- GFK_of_xmaspast 10y ago
  Also you may be interested in Joanna Russ' "How to Suppress Women's Writing"

6stringmerc 10y ago

You're not going back far enough. I'm referencing back to the 1700s or so when there was education in the English language that was outside of the Church, because it did take a while after the Black Plague killed off many of the literate Latin scholars to allow the use of written language to trickle down to Royalty and others, but I've seen enough over the years to know women have earned much respect in literature. Naming a couple names seems futile because distilling "influence" or "respect" into a spreadsheet is fucking bullshit, but being able to say Jane Austen or Mary Shelley or Harper Lee in educated company reflects that there are giants in the field that are reflected upon for the merit of their works.

cafard 10y ago
Respect is far from being domination.
GFK_of_xmaspast 10y ago
Is that the same Jane Austen who, quoting wiki, "Like many women writers, she chose to publish anonymously" and the same Mary Shelley who published the first edition of Frankenstein anonymously. (You also left out the Brontës, all of whom used male pen names, and, as mentioned elsewhere, Amantine-Lucile-Aurore Dupin, aka George Sand). (Also which "Black Plague" are you referring to here? Your mention of "the 1700s" makes me think you mean the one of 1665, but that strikes me as extremely late in the 'there are lots of works written in English' game).
GFK_of_xmaspast 10y ago
Also you may be interested in Joanna Russ' "How to Suppress Women's Writing"