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They clearly outline the update lifetime in the operating system section of the store: https://store.google.com/product/pixel_phone https://store.google.com/pro

by kyrra 10y ago

They clearly outline the update lifetime in the operating system section of the store: https://store.google.com/product/pixel_phone https://store.google.com/product/pixel_phone "Android 7.1 Nougat, the latest Android OS 2 years of OS updates 3 years of security updates"

hedora 10y ago
Thanks for this! At least they are being more transparent than in the past. By my calculations, Apple is doubling this (based on iPhone 5, and OS updates, not security updates). I think in $/month for disposable hardware like phones. Plus, Apple's model is to charge for software development, while Google subsidizes it with ads/surveillance/platform lock-in. I'm happy to (and did, with the iPhone 6) pay 2x to opt-out of the OS-level surveillance. So, for me, this phone is 4x more expensive than an iPhone. That takes real "courage". Of course, most people don't think like me, so they'll probably sell lots of these.
- Klathmon 10y ago
  This has been the policy since the Nexus 4.
  - Chronic9q 10y ago
    So Nexus phones have been 4x more expensive since Nexus 4.
    - Klathmon 10y ago
      Well the Nexus 4 started at $299 at launch, and the Nexus 5 and 5X at $349, so that changes things a bit. I do think that Google's support lifetime of these phones is atrocious, my comment was in reference to the "At least they are being more transparent than in the past."
      - hedora 10y ago
        Yeah; I worded that poorly. I should have said: If they want me back as a customer, they need to add a "turn off all telemetry" button (just like Microsoft needs one), and they'd need to double the support lifetime or half the price of this phone to be inline with Apple. I've noticed Apple tended to command a ~2x price premium on Android, even when their phones had shorter support periods. I personally am willing to pay that premium for privacy/security, but not the camera or apps / os features, which are largely comparable between the two platforms.

by kyrra 10y ago

hedora 10y ago

Thanks for this! At least they are being more transparent than in the past. By my calculations, Apple is doubling this (based on iPhone 5, and OS updates, not security updates). I think in $/month for disposable hardware like phones. Plus, Apple's model is to charge for software development, while Google subsidizes it with ads/surveillance/platform lock-in. I'm happy to (and did, with the iPhone 6) pay 2x to opt-out of the OS-level surveillance. So, for me, this phone is 4x more expensive than an iPhone. That takes real "courage". Of course, most people don't think like me, so they'll probably sell lots of these.

Klathmon 10y ago
This has been the policy since the Nexus 4.
- Chronic9q 10y ago
  So Nexus phones have been 4x more expensive since Nexus 4.
  - Klathmon 10y ago
    Well the Nexus 4 started at $299 at launch, and the Nexus 5 and 5X at $349, so that changes things a bit. I do think that Google's support lifetime of these phones is atrocious, my comment was in reference to the "At least they are being more transparent than in the past."
    - hedora 10y ago
      Yeah; I worded that poorly. I should have said: If they want me back as a customer, they need to add a "turn off all telemetry" button (just like Microsoft needs one), and they'd need to double the support lifetime or half the price of this phone to be inline with Apple. I've noticed Apple tended to command a ~2x price premium on Android, even when their phones had shorter support periods. I personally am willing to pay that premium for privacy/security, but not the camera or apps / os features, which are largely comparable between the two platforms.