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To get women. I think anyone could have told you that.

by smcg 10y ago

Scea91 10y ago
That's way too simplistic answer and not true in many cases. Does Donald Trump strive to be a president to get more women? I don't think thats his primary motivation.
- retox 10y ago
  Money, power, respect. None of these should be valid motivators for running a country, but we live in an imperfect world.
- billyjobob 10y ago
  The fact that some individuals may have more complex motivations does not stop this from being the evolutionary subconscious basis of the drive.
- mc32 10y ago
  True but the Donalds are not the people we should measure but the regular Joes (and the Janes that seek same). Now maybe its ultimately the same motivation but expressing different things. But I guess what makes the drug dealer seek status, the thief, the used car salesperson, the food truck operator, the barber... I guess the only way to find out for sure would be to place lone stranded subjects on solitary planets with no chance to communicate or leave ever with anyone else at the end, come back and see what castaways did -knowing anything they did was for naught.
- mamon 10y ago
  Maybe not official, or even expressed motivation. We humans tend to think high about ourselves (compared to animals), that's why we tend to rationalize our basic instincts. We channel our hunting instinct in FPS computer games, or professions such as soldier or policeman. We are ashamed of our sexual desire so we developed complex system of rationalizations that we call "love". And we don't want to admit that we enjoy dominating others, so we call the jobs where we are in charge, such as governor or mayor "public service".
  - finid 10y ago
    We humans tend to think high about ourselves (compared to animals) What makes you think animals don't think high about themselves? We are ashamed of our sexual desire so we developed complex system of rationalizations that we call "love". Humans developed love? Seriously! Did we also develop gravity? Love is a universal (read: not limited to or developed by humans) attribute that we express to one extent or the other.
    - AstralStorm 10y ago
      Developed in the same sense horned animals developed horns. Inevitable name for an ancient concept of attachment.
  - irishcoffee 10y ago
    > We channel our hunting instinct in FPS computer games, or professions such as soldier or policeman. Huh? I uh, huh? > We are ashamed of our sexual desire so we developed complex system of rationalizations that we call "love". Speak for yourself, I ain't ashamed of shit. Also, go buy a Labrador puppy. Or maybe google something like "monogamous animals" and/or "do animals feel love"
- phkahler 10y ago
  >> Does Donald Trump strive to be a president to get more women? No, he gets the women because of his drive and social status. What the author fails to go into is that females have also evolved to seek men of high social status to father their children. The female genes are more likely to propagate if they mate with such a male, as their children will have similar traits. The other interesting omission is that women seek more masculine men when they are ovulating and less so when they are not - this has been repeatedly shown in studies. So women seek the alpha male for reproduction and the beta male providers the rest of the time.
- jdpedrie 10y ago
  You only have to go back a couple of Presidents to get to one for whom that motivation isn't so far out of the question.
sebastianconcpt 10y ago
True but there is more. To go deeper on this you can check Signalling Theory. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signalling_theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signalling_theory Spent, Geoffrey Millers' book is a fantastically good reading on this subject. You would be surprised on how much that theory can explain and predict. https://www.amazon.com/Spent-Sex-Evolution-Consumer-Behavior/dp/0143117238 https://www.amazon.com/Spent-Sex-Evolution-Consumer-Behavior...
billmalarky 10y ago
Also autonomy. Not having control over one's destiny is stressful and unpleasant.
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To get women. I think anyone could have told you that.

by smcg 10y ago

To get women. I think anyone could have told you that.

That's way too simplistic answer and not true in many cases. Does Donald Trump strive to be a president to get more women? I don't think thats his primary motivation.

retox 10y ago
Money, power, respect. None of these should be valid motivators for running a country, but we live in an imperfect world.
billyjobob 10y ago
The fact that some individuals may have more complex motivations does not stop this from being the evolutionary subconscious basis of the drive.
mc32 10y ago
True but the Donalds are not the people we should measure but the regular Joes (and the Janes that seek same). Now maybe its ultimately the same motivation but expressing different things. But I guess what makes the drug dealer seek status, the thief, the used car salesperson, the food truck operator, the barber... I guess the only way to find out for sure would be to place lone stranded subjects on solitary planets with no chance to communicate or leave ever with anyone else at the end, come back and see what castaways did -knowing anything they did was for naught.
mamon 10y ago
Maybe not official, or even expressed motivation. We humans tend to think high about ourselves (compared to animals), that's why we tend to rationalize our basic instincts. We channel our hunting instinct in FPS computer games, or professions such as soldier or policeman. We are ashamed of our sexual desire so we developed complex system of rationalizations that we call "love". And we don't want to admit that we enjoy dominating others, so we call the jobs where we are in charge, such as governor or mayor "public service".
- finid 10y ago
  We humans tend to think high about ourselves (compared to animals) What makes you think animals don't think high about themselves? We are ashamed of our sexual desire so we developed complex system of rationalizations that we call "love". Humans developed love? Seriously! Did we also develop gravity? Love is a universal (read: not limited to or developed by humans) attribute that we express to one extent or the other.
  - AstralStorm 10y ago
    Developed in the same sense horned animals developed horns. Inevitable name for an ancient concept of attachment.
- irishcoffee 10y ago
  > We channel our hunting instinct in FPS computer games, or professions such as soldier or policeman. Huh? I uh, huh? > We are ashamed of our sexual desire so we developed complex system of rationalizations that we call "love". Speak for yourself, I ain't ashamed of shit. Also, go buy a Labrador puppy. Or maybe google something like "monogamous animals" and/or "do animals feel love"
phkahler 10y ago
>> Does Donald Trump strive to be a president to get more women? No, he gets the women because of his drive and social status. What the author fails to go into is that females have also evolved to seek men of high social status to father their children. The female genes are more likely to propagate if they mate with such a male, as their children will have similar traits. The other interesting omission is that women seek more masculine men when they are ovulating and less so when they are not - this has been repeatedly shown in studies. So women seek the alpha male for reproduction and the beta male providers the rest of the time.
jdpedrie 10y ago
You only have to go back a couple of Presidents to get to one for whom that motivation isn't so far out of the question.

sebastianconcpt 10y ago

True but there is more. To go deeper on this you can check Signalling Theory. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signalling_theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signalling_theory Spent, Geoffrey Millers' book is a fantastically good reading on this subject. You would be surprised on how much that theory can explain and predict. https://www.amazon.com/Spent-Sex-Evolution-Consumer-Behavior/dp/0143117238 https://www.amazon.com/Spent-Sex-Evolution-Consumer-Behavior...

billmalarky 10y ago

Also autonomy. Not having control over one's destiny is stressful and unpleasant.

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