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I hope Twitter doesn't get acquired by Salesforce - that would destroy it.

by w1ntermute 10y ago

grosbisou 10y ago
I would be curious about Salesforce strategy if that happens.
mc32 10y ago
I have difficulty imagining Disney being any better, so I'm curious to hear an argument for Disney.
- jarsin 10y ago
  They will replace all the devs with H1b Visa holders, and then censor any tweet calling them out on their illegal business practice. * Edit removed the word "outsource"
  - mc32 10y ago
    So they're buying it to kill it off? Like it's not heading that way on its own. See it makes no sense to me for Disney to buy them unless they want to keep it away from others.
    - jarsin 10y ago
      Disney has been illegally replacing american tech workers with H1b Visa Holders for years now. I was making a smart ass comment about that, but ya it makes no sense for them.
  - pedrosorio 10y ago
    http://h1bdata.info/index.php?em=Twitter+Inc&job=Software+Engineer&city=&year=All+Years http://h1bdata.info/index.php?em=Twitter+Inc&job=Software+En...
    - jarsin 10y ago
      OMG it's a match made in heaven...
  - SwellJoe 10y ago
    Does "outsource" mean something different now? An H1B holder is someone who has come to the US to work. So, if they're working here in the US, in an office in the US...how is that "outsourcing"?
    - jarsin 10y ago
      Because it replaces the job of the american worker with a foreign worker. It's illegal to replace a job of an american worker using H1b Visa's. Maybe insourcing is a better word :)
      - SwellJoe 10y ago
        There's probably a useful conversation to be had about whether companies are using H1b talent to drive down the cost of technical labor rather than to fill gaps in the talent pool (they probably are). But, wrapping up that conversation in misleading language seems counter-productive.
- jamesroseman 10y ago
  From public news sources, I imagine it's the value prop of live streaming sports games -- ESPN is largely owned by Disney, and from what I've heard it's failing as of late. Issue with Disney from a customer side is censorship.
- remarkEon 10y ago
  ESPN (owned by Disney) subs are sliding. Have been for a while. I imagine that, given how the clusters of traffic on Twitter can be pretty dense around sports that there could be some integration there. Second, Disney has a pretty massive property book right now (there's, I think, either a Star Wars or MCU movie coming out every year until sometime into the 2020s) so maybe they could view Twitter as a sort of natural channel to deliver that content? Best I could do.
mrweasel 10y ago
Google could by them, move the whole thing to AppEngine as a show case product for illustrating how well AppEngine scales. Any one paying 17 billion USD (or even between 5 and 10 billion) would need to be able to extract at least the same value from the purchase. If not, the buyers stock price is going to take a huge hit. It will anyway if the purchase of Twitter can't be rationalised from the start. But pretty much anyone buying Twitter would have to kill it in its current form.
harryh 10y ago
There is a good chance you are right, but Bret Taylor works at Salesforce now and presumably he'd end up running it in some shape or form. That gives me some hope.
whatever_dude 10y ago
It is difficult imagining any buyer being a fit for Twitter. I can't see how integrating Twitter with anything could be positive. But then again, Twitter itself has been a bad fit for Twitter, so maybe something will come out of this.
sulam 10y ago
Amusingly I left SFDC to join Twitter, and in my exit interview the VP of the group I worked in suggested to me that Salesforce might buy Twitter and I'd come back that way. At the time the proposition was absurd - Twitter was valued at $3B and clearly had a lot of growth ahead of it. And now here we are!

I hope Twitter doesn't get acquired by Salesforce - that would destroy it.

grosbisou 10y ago

I would be curious about Salesforce strategy if that happens.

mc32 10y ago

I have difficulty imagining Disney being any better, so I'm curious to hear an argument for Disney.

jarsin 10y ago
They will replace all the devs with H1b Visa holders, and then censor any tweet calling them out on their illegal business practice. * Edit removed the word "outsource"
- mc32 10y ago
  So they're buying it to kill it off? Like it's not heading that way on its own. See it makes no sense to me for Disney to buy them unless they want to keep it away from others.
  - jarsin 10y ago
    Disney has been illegally replacing american tech workers with H1b Visa Holders for years now. I was making a smart ass comment about that, but ya it makes no sense for them.
- pedrosorio 10y ago
  http://h1bdata.info/index.php?em=Twitter+Inc&job=Software+Engineer&city=&year=All+Years http://h1bdata.info/index.php?em=Twitter+Inc&job=Software+En...
  - jarsin 10y ago
    OMG it's a match made in heaven...
- SwellJoe 10y ago
  Does "outsource" mean something different now? An H1B holder is someone who has come to the US to work. So, if they're working here in the US, in an office in the US...how is that "outsourcing"?
  - jarsin 10y ago
    Because it replaces the job of the american worker with a foreign worker. It's illegal to replace a job of an american worker using H1b Visa's. Maybe insourcing is a better word :)
    - SwellJoe 10y ago
      There's probably a useful conversation to be had about whether companies are using H1b talent to drive down the cost of technical labor rather than to fill gaps in the talent pool (they probably are). But, wrapping up that conversation in misleading language seems counter-productive.
jamesroseman 10y ago
From public news sources, I imagine it's the value prop of live streaming sports games -- ESPN is largely owned by Disney, and from what I've heard it's failing as of late. Issue with Disney from a customer side is censorship.
remarkEon 10y ago
ESPN (owned by Disney) subs are sliding. Have been for a while. I imagine that, given how the clusters of traffic on Twitter can be pretty dense around sports that there could be some integration there. Second, Disney has a pretty massive property book right now (there's, I think, either a Star Wars or MCU movie coming out every year until sometime into the 2020s) so maybe they could view Twitter as a sort of natural channel to deliver that content? Best I could do.

mrweasel 10y ago

Google could by them, move the whole thing to AppEngine as a show case product for illustrating how well AppEngine scales. Any one paying 17 billion USD (or even between 5 and 10 billion) would need to be able to extract at least the same value from the purchase. If not, the buyers stock price is going to take a huge hit. It will anyway if the purchase of Twitter can't be rationalised from the start. But pretty much anyone buying Twitter would have to kill it in its current form.

harryh 10y ago

There is a good chance you are right, but Bret Taylor works at Salesforce now and presumably he'd end up running it in some shape or form. That gives me some hope.

whatever_dude 10y ago

It is difficult imagining any buyer being a fit for Twitter. I can't see how integrating Twitter with anything could be positive. But then again, Twitter itself has been a bad fit for Twitter, so maybe something will come out of this.

sulam 10y ago

Amusingly I left SFDC to join Twitter, and in my exit interview the VP of the group I worked in suggested to me that Salesforce might buy Twitter and I'd come back that way. At the time the proposition was absurd - Twitter was valued at $3B and clearly had a lot of growth ahead of it. And now here we are!