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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/campaign-zero-debunks-police-killings-myth_us_5678c575e4b014efe0d6a2cd http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/campaign-zero-deb

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/campaign-zero-debunks-police-killings-myth_us_5678c575e4b014efe0d6a2cd http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/campaign-zero-debunks-po... >Among this larger statistical breakdown of police violence, Campaign Zero also discovered that there is no direct correlation between police violence and violence that occurs within a given community.

SomeStupidPoint 10y ago
Just reading their report quickly, it doesn't look like they're controlling for a lot of things, and are measuring non-target cultural factors which skew their correlation. (Of course, they don't even mention their methods, because it likely would be such an obvious source of criticism with their conclusion.[1]) Which isn't to say I'm right either, and certainly raises a bigger question about it, but back to my point: we just can't tell, because there is a lack of detail in their analysis. [1] http://mappingpoliceviolence.org/2015/ http://mappingpoliceviolence.org/2015/
- dalke 10y ago
  Their methods are listed under the "about the data" tab, which links to http://mappingpoliceviolence.org/aboutthedata/ http://mappingpoliceviolence.org/aboutthedata/ : > This information has been meticulously sourced from the three largest, most comprehensive and impartial crowdsourced databases on police killings in the country: FatalEncounters.org, the U.S. Police Shootings Database and KilledbyPolice.net. We've also done extensive original research to further improve the quality and completeness of the data; searching social media, obituaries, criminal records databases, police reports and other sources to identify the race of 91 percent of all victims in the database. It also lists their definitions for "police killing", "unarmed", "vehicle", and "allegedly armed." They also make the data available for download, so you can verify it. The columns are: Victim's name Victim's age Victim's gender Victim's race URL of image of victim Date of injury resulting in death (month/day/year) Location of injury (address) Location of death (city) Location of death (state) Location of death (zip code) Location of death (county) Agency responsible for death Cause of death A brief description of the circumstances surrounding the death Official disposition of death (justified or other) Criminal Charges? Link to news article or photo of official document Symptoms of mental illness? Unarmed
  - SomeStupidPoint 10y ago
    I meant their methods of analysis for that specific report, not gathering their base dataset. I did, however, already download their dataset to look through it later, when I have more time.

SomeStupidPoint 10y ago

Just reading their report quickly, it doesn't look like they're controlling for a lot of things, and are measuring non-target cultural factors which skew their correlation. (Of course, they don't even mention their methods, because it likely would be such an obvious source of criticism with their conclusion.[1]) Which isn't to say I'm right either, and certainly raises a bigger question about it, but back to my point: we just can't tell, because there is a lack of detail in their analysis. [1] http://mappingpoliceviolence.org/2015/ http://mappingpoliceviolence.org/2015/

dalke 10y ago
Their methods are listed under the "about the data" tab, which links to http://mappingpoliceviolence.org/aboutthedata/ http://mappingpoliceviolence.org/aboutthedata/ : > This information has been meticulously sourced from the three largest, most comprehensive and impartial crowdsourced databases on police killings in the country: FatalEncounters.org, the U.S. Police Shootings Database and KilledbyPolice.net. We've also done extensive original research to further improve the quality and completeness of the data; searching social media, obituaries, criminal records databases, police reports and other sources to identify the race of 91 percent of all victims in the database. It also lists their definitions for "police killing", "unarmed", "vehicle", and "allegedly armed." They also make the data available for download, so you can verify it. The columns are: Victim's name Victim's age Victim's gender Victim's race URL of image of victim Date of injury resulting in death (month/day/year) Location of injury (address) Location of death (city) Location of death (state) Location of death (zip code) Location of death (county) Agency responsible for death Cause of death A brief description of the circumstances surrounding the death Official disposition of death (justified or other) Criminal Charges? Link to news article or photo of official document Symptoms of mental illness? Unarmed
- SomeStupidPoint 10y ago
  I meant their methods of analysis for that specific report, not gathering their base dataset. I did, however, already download their dataset to look through it later, when I have more time.