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It blows my mind that there's not a single positive top level comment yet. Seriously, guys, what's up with the culture of entitlement and complaining? We're ha

It blows my mind that there's not a single positive top level comment yet. Seriously, guys, what's up with the culture of entitlement and complaining? We're hackers, let's get fucking excited about the new cool gadgets! This phone is awesome. How about, before nitpicking and criticizing, we take a moment to appreciate and celebrate the new technology developed by our colleagues?

zepto 10y ago
Because it's not new technology.
- rayalez 10y ago
  Oh, come on! A new good looking android phone with a cool camera, vr, and super advanced AI assistant is not good enough for you? How revolutionary was the last project that you have developed? What qualifies as "new technology" by your high standards? Do you expect it to be able to mine uranium while giving you a blowjob? I'm pretty sure it'll be able to do the later thing when new cool VR apps come around =) Creating new things is hard. Creating new complicated thigs is incredibly hard. I think we would live in a much better world if people, instead of bitching, would support and cheer for anything new that is being created.
  - Sylos 10y ago
    > What qualifies as "new technology" by your high standards? Well, why don't we start at the standards that Google is advertising with? It's them who are acting like this is the best thing since sliced bread, while it's really just yet another average phone.
  - 1_2__3 10y ago
    It looks like every other apple phone, the camera quality is table stakes, come off with that "super advanced" ridiculous hyperbole (it's just Google Now rebranded), and... wait that was all? I'm supposed to be leaping around in excitement over that?
    - rimantas 10y ago
      Not every other Apple phone, just 6, 6S and 7 :) (And some HTC phone which had the same design even before iPhone).
  - ferongr 10y ago
    No OIS. No MicroSD card. No waterproofing. No stereo speakers. Huge bezels without any function. Derivative design. It's not anything special.
- ssijak 10y ago
  New in what way? Finally it looks like that Google consolidated it`s efforts in something meaningful. With google home, wifi, casts, pixel (for which they control manufacturing), AI in the front, google photos for free (unlimited full-res storage for pixel phones), you can not say that they are not going in the right direction. Complaining because of some price bump or some nitpicking is closing the eyes on the big picture. This is the first nexus(now pixel) phone that I am excited about after the first one was announced.
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Retr0spectrum 10y ago
"Wow this is amazing!" doesn't make particularly interesting discussion.
- rayalez 10y ago
  It feels like people are being negative just to sound all intelligent, skeptical, and subversive. In my opinion, there's no wisdom in naysaying. Haters are just as much a part of a groupthink as fanboys. Negativity, by itself, does not make discussion more interesting. I think it's okay to have an intelligent, critical discussion about new things. But what I am observing on the recent Hacker News threads does not feel like that. It feels like another mindless trend. People in pop culture enjoy picking apart failures of celebrities. People here enjoy finding flaws in anything new released by a big company. I do not like this part of human nature. Putting it on hold would make HN a more fun place to hang out at.
  - criddell 10y ago
    I don't think it's just being a hater. Google's marketing campaign leading up to this event is a classic case of over-promising. They really built up expectations so I'm not surprised that people are disappointed.
threeseed 10y ago
Do you work for Google ? Because they sure aren't my colleagues and I am closer geographically to Sony and Samsung. The point is that we've seen this strategy before (Nexus) and there's not much in value add over some generic cheap Android phone.
Eridrus 10y ago
The Nexus 5 was amazing, the 5X was acceptable, this.... makes me want another option. Maybe you care about the camera, but I barely use mine except as a scanner replacement when sending documents. All of the interesting announcements were about everything except the hardware, which IMO was extremely boring, and they've discontinued their mid-range line of phones so it's not even clear that you can get the software on other phones. You could argue this is exactly what Apple does, but that's the reason I refuse to buy Apple products. I'm expecting and hoping a flop that causes a return to the spirit, if not the name, of the Nexus line.
- fencepost 10y ago
  > Maybe you care about the camera, but I barely use mine except as a scanner replacement when sending documents. Yah, if I go back through my photos there's the occasional "that looks cool!" but the vast majority fall into 3 categories: receipts, equipment and equipment closets, and cats. None of those scream a need for exceptional image quality.
- killerdhmo 10y ago
  Except, mobile phone photography is one of the fastest growing use cases: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/23/arts/international/photos-photos-everywhere.html?_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/23/arts/international/photos-... Even look at Flickr's top camera usage: https://www.flickr.com/cameras https://www.flickr.com/cameras (which has a selection bias towards people who take and upload certain pictures to Flickr) Think about the number of other places images are taken (and shared!) Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, etc. etc. I think you might be in the minority when it comes to images.
  - Eridrus 10y ago
    I believe it, I'm just sad that there's no option for those like me who are satisfied with the shitty 5X camera.
1_2__3 10y ago
Oh so HN exists to help companies market their gadgets?
vic20forever 10y ago
Okay, I'll appreciate and celebrate it, but at $649 with only 2 years of feature updates, I'm not going to buy it. I just don't make enough to afford shelling out this much money every two years.
romanovcode 10y ago
> new cool gadgets Only thing new here is camera enhancements. Nothing new, really.

zepto 10y ago

Because it's not new technology.

rayalez 10y ago
Oh, come on! A new good looking android phone with a cool camera, vr, and super advanced AI assistant is not good enough for you? How revolutionary was the last project that you have developed? What qualifies as "new technology" by your high standards? Do you expect it to be able to mine uranium while giving you a blowjob? I'm pretty sure it'll be able to do the later thing when new cool VR apps come around =) Creating new things is hard. Creating new complicated thigs is incredibly hard. I think we would live in a much better world if people, instead of bitching, would support and cheer for anything new that is being created.
- Sylos 10y ago
  > What qualifies as "new technology" by your high standards? Well, why don't we start at the standards that Google is advertising with? It's them who are acting like this is the best thing since sliced bread, while it's really just yet another average phone.
- 1_2__3 10y ago
  It looks like every other apple phone, the camera quality is table stakes, come off with that "super advanced" ridiculous hyperbole (it's just Google Now rebranded), and... wait that was all? I'm supposed to be leaping around in excitement over that?
  - rimantas 10y ago
    Not every other Apple phone, just 6, 6S and 7 :) (And some HTC phone which had the same design even before iPhone).
- ferongr 10y ago
  No OIS. No MicroSD card. No waterproofing. No stereo speakers. Huge bezels without any function. Derivative design. It's not anything special.
ssijak 10y ago
New in what way? Finally it looks like that Google consolidated it`s efforts in something meaningful. With google home, wifi, casts, pixel (for which they control manufacturing), AI in the front, google photos for free (unlimited full-res storage for pixel phones), you can not say that they are not going in the right direction. Complaining because of some price bump or some nitpicking is closing the eyes on the big picture. This is the first nexus(now pixel) phone that I am excited about after the first one was announced.
- deleted 10y ago
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Retr0spectrum 10y ago

"Wow this is amazing!" doesn't make particularly interesting discussion.

rayalez 10y ago
It feels like people are being negative just to sound all intelligent, skeptical, and subversive. In my opinion, there's no wisdom in naysaying. Haters are just as much a part of a groupthink as fanboys. Negativity, by itself, does not make discussion more interesting. I think it's okay to have an intelligent, critical discussion about new things. But what I am observing on the recent Hacker News threads does not feel like that. It feels like another mindless trend. People in pop culture enjoy picking apart failures of celebrities. People here enjoy finding flaws in anything new released by a big company. I do not like this part of human nature. Putting it on hold would make HN a more fun place to hang out at.
- criddell 10y ago
  I don't think it's just being a hater. Google's marketing campaign leading up to this event is a classic case of over-promising. They really built up expectations so I'm not surprised that people are disappointed.

threeseed 10y ago

Do you work for Google ? Because they sure aren't my colleagues and I am closer geographically to Sony and Samsung. The point is that we've seen this strategy before (Nexus) and there's not much in value add over some generic cheap Android phone.

Eridrus 10y ago

The Nexus 5 was amazing, the 5X was acceptable, this.... makes me want another option. Maybe you care about the camera, but I barely use mine except as a scanner replacement when sending documents. All of the interesting announcements were about everything except the hardware, which IMO was extremely boring, and they've discontinued their mid-range line of phones so it's not even clear that you can get the software on other phones. You could argue this is exactly what Apple does, but that's the reason I refuse to buy Apple products. I'm expecting and hoping a flop that causes a return to the spirit, if not the name, of the Nexus line.

fencepost 10y ago
> Maybe you care about the camera, but I barely use mine except as a scanner replacement when sending documents. Yah, if I go back through my photos there's the occasional "that looks cool!" but the vast majority fall into 3 categories: receipts, equipment and equipment closets, and cats. None of those scream a need for exceptional image quality.
killerdhmo 10y ago
Except, mobile phone photography is one of the fastest growing use cases: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/23/arts/international/photos-photos-everywhere.html?_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/23/arts/international/photos-... Even look at Flickr's top camera usage: https://www.flickr.com/cameras https://www.flickr.com/cameras (which has a selection bias towards people who take and upload certain pictures to Flickr) Think about the number of other places images are taken (and shared!) Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, etc. etc. I think you might be in the minority when it comes to images.
- Eridrus 10y ago
  I believe it, I'm just sad that there's no option for those like me who are satisfied with the shitty 5X camera.

1_2__3 10y ago

Oh so HN exists to help companies market their gadgets?

vic20forever 10y ago

Okay, I'll appreciate and celebrate it, but at $649 with only 2 years of feature updates, I'm not going to buy it. I just don't make enough to afford shelling out this much money every two years.

romanovcode 10y ago

> new cool gadgets Only thing new here is camera enhancements. Nothing new, really.