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Like all of the articles praising Apple's actions, this one focuses solely on the conflict between Apple and Adobe, as if that's all there was to it, as if thos

Like all of the articles praising Apple's actions, this one focuses solely on the conflict between Apple and Adobe, as if that's all there was to it, as if those decrying Apple's actions are doing it out of love for Adobe and not because Apple's actions and public statements on the matter are inconsistent, hypocritical and are causing huge collateral damage to various companies and individuals who have nothing to do with Adobe or Flash or Microsoft and have only been adding value to the App Store. I found this piece on Ars Technica to be more insightful and closer to reality (i.e., outside of the Reality Distortion Field): http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/04/steve-jobs-weighs-on-iphone-os-dev-controversy.ars http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/04/steve-jobs-weighs-...

wdewind 17y ago
I agree with what was said below, it wasn't a great article, but you must not have read the entire thing. His main point is actually that Apple is providing a hell of a distribution platform for developers that is going to be very expensive to leave.
- itistoday 17y ago
  I did read it, but you're right about what his main point was. I was mainly referring to the last two paragraphs. His main point boils down to, "Baby, look how sweet it is up in here, look at this bling bling, now shut up while I smack you about." Sure, I agree, Apple has a wonderful, beautiful setup. I don't think anyone disputes that, but I fail to see how that's supposed to make me respect their actions.
  - wdewind 17y ago
    Apple doesn't have a quantity problem, they have a quality problem. You don't have to respect anything, but not at a certain point it's like being pissed that you can't say fuck in an ad on television. These guys paid a lot of money to build an audience (of extremely high demographic value, mind you), and a platform for you to talk to it on and make money from it directly, sorry but you have to follow their rules.
    - itistoday 17y ago
      1) The quality argument has been shown to be utter hogwash. Simply untrue, utterly devoid of rational backing. Read the Ars link I posted for details. 2) All of these companies and developers have been following the rules only to just now have them changed on them for utterly shitty reasons. 3) Apple isn't enforcing their own rules. Lots of apps break the rules yet are allowed on the store. Their rules, at this point, amount to: we're gonna let you in if we like you. That's a pretty crummy rule; hope your business plan doesn't depend on it. 4) You're missing half the perspective. Apple should be grateful to the developers who have worked their asses off and bent over backwards to satisfy Apple's various restrictions to fill their store with lots of software. If Apple treats them poorly, they'll find developers choosing other platforms.
      - wdewind 17y ago
        1) The quality argument has been shown to be utter hogwash. Simply untrue, utterly devoid of rational backing. Read the Ars link I posted for details. Totally true, one is not better than the other. But when you've got a ton of developers and you want to raise the barrier to entry (and they do) how else should they be doing it? Choosing the apps themselves? 2) All of these companies and developers have been following the rules only to just now have them changed on them for utterly shitty reasons. Yes that's true. At the same time, that's life. You play in someone else's playground they make the rules. No one forced anyone to be an iphone developer. It's not your RIGHT to be an iphone developer in the same way it's your RIGHT to be a web developer. Remember when the facebook app developer stopped developing for the app store? That wasn't just for show. 3) Apple isn't enforcing their own rules. Lots of apps break the rules yet are allowed on the store. Their rules, at this point, amount to: we're gonna let you in if we like you. That's a pretty crummy rule; hope your business plan doesn't depend on it. Again, I'm not saying any of this is nice for developers, but hope your business plan doesn't depend on someone else's marketplace. 4) You're missing half the perspective. Apple should be grateful to the developers who have worked their asses off and bent over backwards to satisfy Apple's various restrictions to fill their store with lots of software. If Apple treats them poorly, they'll find developers choosing other platforms. Sorry but even without the app store the iPhone would still be the number one selling phone. No question about it. The app store is great, but Apple easily could've done it without it. And please don't forget that all of these developers were chasing what was called a "modern day gold rush" - they weren't volunteering their time for Apple. They bent over backwards more than willingly, and continue to do so. This is software companies outsourcing their marketing to Apple and complaining when the service changes. This is what happens when you don't have control over your business. It sucks.
buro9 17y ago
Like Blur vs Oasis, Apple vs Google makes it seem like they are the only boys in town and so they both get all the press. We could be being played here. Neither Blur nor Oasis were bigger than the pop/dance music scenes, and neither Apple nor Google yet threaten Nokia and RIM.

wdewind 17y ago

I agree with what was said below, it wasn't a great article, but you must not have read the entire thing. His main point is actually that Apple is providing a hell of a distribution platform for developers that is going to be very expensive to leave.

itistoday 17y ago
I did read it, but you're right about what his main point was. I was mainly referring to the last two paragraphs. His main point boils down to, "Baby, look how sweet it is up in here, look at this bling bling, now shut up while I smack you about." Sure, I agree, Apple has a wonderful, beautiful setup. I don't think anyone disputes that, but I fail to see how that's supposed to make me respect their actions.
- wdewind 17y ago
  Apple doesn't have a quantity problem, they have a quality problem. You don't have to respect anything, but not at a certain point it's like being pissed that you can't say fuck in an ad on television. These guys paid a lot of money to build an audience (of extremely high demographic value, mind you), and a platform for you to talk to it on and make money from it directly, sorry but you have to follow their rules.
  - itistoday 17y ago
    1) The quality argument has been shown to be utter hogwash. Simply untrue, utterly devoid of rational backing. Read the Ars link I posted for details. 2) All of these companies and developers have been following the rules only to just now have them changed on them for utterly shitty reasons. 3) Apple isn't enforcing their own rules. Lots of apps break the rules yet are allowed on the store. Their rules, at this point, amount to: we're gonna let you in if we like you. That's a pretty crummy rule; hope your business plan doesn't depend on it. 4) You're missing half the perspective. Apple should be grateful to the developers who have worked their asses off and bent over backwards to satisfy Apple's various restrictions to fill their store with lots of software. If Apple treats them poorly, they'll find developers choosing other platforms.
    - wdewind 17y ago
      1) The quality argument has been shown to be utter hogwash. Simply untrue, utterly devoid of rational backing. Read the Ars link I posted for details. Totally true, one is not better than the other. But when you've got a ton of developers and you want to raise the barrier to entry (and they do) how else should they be doing it? Choosing the apps themselves? 2) All of these companies and developers have been following the rules only to just now have them changed on them for utterly shitty reasons. Yes that's true. At the same time, that's life. You play in someone else's playground they make the rules. No one forced anyone to be an iphone developer. It's not your RIGHT to be an iphone developer in the same way it's your RIGHT to be a web developer. Remember when the facebook app developer stopped developing for the app store? That wasn't just for show. 3) Apple isn't enforcing their own rules. Lots of apps break the rules yet are allowed on the store. Their rules, at this point, amount to: we're gonna let you in if we like you. That's a pretty crummy rule; hope your business plan doesn't depend on it. Again, I'm not saying any of this is nice for developers, but hope your business plan doesn't depend on someone else's marketplace. 4) You're missing half the perspective. Apple should be grateful to the developers who have worked their asses off and bent over backwards to satisfy Apple's various restrictions to fill their store with lots of software. If Apple treats them poorly, they'll find developers choosing other platforms. Sorry but even without the app store the iPhone would still be the number one selling phone. No question about it. The app store is great, but Apple easily could've done it without it. And please don't forget that all of these developers were chasing what was called a "modern day gold rush" - they weren't volunteering their time for Apple. They bent over backwards more than willingly, and continue to do so. This is software companies outsourcing their marketing to Apple and complaining when the service changes. This is what happens when you don't have control over your business. It sucks.

buro9 17y ago

Like Blur vs Oasis, Apple vs Google makes it seem like they are the only boys in town and so they both get all the press. We could be being played here. Neither Blur nor Oasis were bigger than the pop/dance music scenes, and neither Apple nor Google yet threaten Nokia and RIM.