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I use all of Apple's cloud services and am perfectly happy. Can you elaborate? I'm curious. My only problem with Apple right now is they won't sell me an unloc

I use all of Apple's cloud services and am perfectly happy. Can you elaborate? I'm curious. My only problem with Apple right now is they won't sell me an unlocked iPhone7 Plus. Every single person I talk to at Apple gives me a different story on how to buy one, but if I show up at the store with money, they won't sell it to me, or even reserve it. I even offered the store to just hold on to my credit card for a week or whatever and mail it back to me. They thought I was crazy! ;)

Cyph0n 10y ago
> My only problem with Apple right now is they won't sell me an unlocked iPhone7 Plus Why not just order it from the Apple Online Store?
- PKop 10y ago
  Not offered there. You have to be a current Verizon, Att, etc. customer (or sign up for new plan). I've tried.
  - chadgeidel 10y ago
    On the contrary - I just did this. I'm a current AT&T customer and ordered a bare phone for my eventual transition to Verizon. I'm in the US - maybe this is not available in your region.
    - seltzered_ 10y ago
      If you ordered an at&t iphone 7 that way, it won't work because the intel modem chip in the att/tmobile versions doesn't support cdma bands: http://www.recode.net/2016/9/9/12863302/apple-iphone-7-intel-qualcomm http://www.recode.net/2016/9/9/12863302/apple-iphone-7-intel...
      - hx87 10y ago
        If you're an AT&T customer looking to switch to Verizon, you order a Verizon phone, not an AT&T phone.
      - chadgeidel 10y ago
        Yep, that's what they told me at the store, so I ordered a Verizon phone. To the parent's point, I had no problem doing this, I am not currently a Verizon customer and they sold me a bare phone without a contract.
  - Cyph0n 10y ago
    Looks like you're right. For some reason I thought they started selling unlocked iPhones a few years back.
    - twoodfin 10y ago
      They do sell iPhones in the US not tied to a carrier, but usually not until a few weeks/months after the release.
    - jitl 10y ago
      All phones sold on Apple's online store are unlocked, but they come with an unactivated carrier SIM. I purchased an iPhone 7 (t-mobile), then popped out the SIM and put in my old AT&T sim. No problem. I suggest just buying the t-mobile device and doing the same, if you're looking for a GSM device.
  - artimaeis 10y ago
    You simply choose your current carrier so they know which brand of SIM to put in afaik. When you get to the final page choose "Pay in full" and you get the unlocked version. Maybe not the greatest UI decision - but it's hard to imagine someone who isn't already on a carrier.
    - PKop 10y ago
      I have a business account and that didn't work. Haven't tried since, just going to wait for unlocked.
dpark 10y ago
I have an unlocked iPhone 7 Plus in my pocket. I bought it from Apple. I gave them my credit card info and they mailed me a phone. It wasn't really that complex. Are you trying to buy a "sim free" phone? I believe those are expected to go on sale soon.
- gotthemwmds 10y ago
  Can you please go with me to the Seattle or Bellevue Apple Store and help me make this transaction? I went to both over the weekend and things did not go well. They didn't seem to understand the basic process you outlined above.
  - jitl 10y ago
    All phones sold at Apple stores are unlocked, but they come with an unactivated carrier SIM. I purchased an iPhone 7 (t-mobile), then popped out the SIM and put in my old AT&T sim. No problem. I suggest just buying the t-mobile device and doing the same, if you're looking for a GSM device.
    - gotthemwmds 10y ago
      I just want a phone that works. All of those words are confusing. Seriously though I showed up at Apple with a credit card and a SIM card 48 hours ago and they were not able to sell me a phone. To make it even weirder, I had the (unopened) phone I wanted in a bag, but it is a "locked" one from TMobile. I thought that was ancient history. One day Apple will want my money!
      - dpark 10y ago
        What carrier do you want to use the phone with? If, say, you want to use it with AT&T, just go in and buy an AT&T phone. It will be unlocked. Just swap out the SIM card in the phone with the one you already have if you don't want to activate the provided SIM card for some reason.

Cyph0n 10y ago

> My only problem with Apple right now is they won't sell me an unlocked iPhone7 Plus Why not just order it from the Apple Online Store?

PKop 10y ago
Not offered there. You have to be a current Verizon, Att, etc. customer (or sign up for new plan). I've tried.
- chadgeidel 10y ago
  On the contrary - I just did this. I'm a current AT&T customer and ordered a bare phone for my eventual transition to Verizon. I'm in the US - maybe this is not available in your region.
  - seltzered_ 10y ago
    If you ordered an at&t iphone 7 that way, it won't work because the intel modem chip in the att/tmobile versions doesn't support cdma bands: http://www.recode.net/2016/9/9/12863302/apple-iphone-7-intel-qualcomm http://www.recode.net/2016/9/9/12863302/apple-iphone-7-intel...
    - hx87 10y ago
      If you're an AT&T customer looking to switch to Verizon, you order a Verizon phone, not an AT&T phone.
    - chadgeidel 10y ago
      Yep, that's what they told me at the store, so I ordered a Verizon phone. To the parent's point, I had no problem doing this, I am not currently a Verizon customer and they sold me a bare phone without a contract.
- Cyph0n 10y ago
  Looks like you're right. For some reason I thought they started selling unlocked iPhones a few years back.
  - twoodfin 10y ago
    They do sell iPhones in the US not tied to a carrier, but usually not until a few weeks/months after the release.
  - jitl 10y ago
    All phones sold on Apple's online store are unlocked, but they come with an unactivated carrier SIM. I purchased an iPhone 7 (t-mobile), then popped out the SIM and put in my old AT&T sim. No problem. I suggest just buying the t-mobile device and doing the same, if you're looking for a GSM device.
- artimaeis 10y ago
  You simply choose your current carrier so they know which brand of SIM to put in afaik. When you get to the final page choose "Pay in full" and you get the unlocked version. Maybe not the greatest UI decision - but it's hard to imagine someone who isn't already on a carrier.
  - PKop 10y ago
    I have a business account and that didn't work. Haven't tried since, just going to wait for unlocked.

dpark 10y ago

I have an unlocked iPhone 7 Plus in my pocket. I bought it from Apple. I gave them my credit card info and they mailed me a phone. It wasn't really that complex. Are you trying to buy a "sim free" phone? I believe those are expected to go on sale soon.

gotthemwmds 10y ago
Can you please go with me to the Seattle or Bellevue Apple Store and help me make this transaction? I went to both over the weekend and things did not go well. They didn't seem to understand the basic process you outlined above.
- jitl 10y ago
  All phones sold at Apple stores are unlocked, but they come with an unactivated carrier SIM. I purchased an iPhone 7 (t-mobile), then popped out the SIM and put in my old AT&T sim. No problem. I suggest just buying the t-mobile device and doing the same, if you're looking for a GSM device.
  - gotthemwmds 10y ago
    I just want a phone that works. All of those words are confusing. Seriously though I showed up at Apple with a credit card and a SIM card 48 hours ago and they were not able to sell me a phone. To make it even weirder, I had the (unopened) phone I wanted in a bag, but it is a "locked" one from TMobile. I thought that was ancient history. One day Apple will want my money!
    - dpark 10y ago
      What carrier do you want to use the phone with? If, say, you want to use it with AT&T, just go in and buy an AT&T phone. It will be unlocked. Just swap out the SIM card in the phone with the one you already have if you don't want to activate the provided SIM card for some reason.