Not a single one of your links supports your claim. Most (all?) are not even talking about motivation or discipline at all. One talks about self-control, which

Not a single one of your links supports your claim. Most (all?) are not even talking about motivation or discipline at all. One talks about self-control, which is a whole other topic and closely related to motivation. Here's a link that would be relevant to what we're talking about: http://growthzer.com/substitute-for-motivation/ http://growthzer.com/substitute-for-motivation/ It could be argued with. But, at the end of the day, it's just a blog post. Here's another blog post, with which I agree more: http://zenhabits.net/discipline/ http://zenhabits.net/discipline/ Your statements cannot be read properly because you are using a term far outside its normal definition yet you have not defined it. Discipline is traditionally the execution of codes, norms, and orders, often involving an institution or a person who will inflict punishment or other, well, motivational tools to make you comply with those codes, norms, and orders. The blog I linked goes over this. You are vastly oversimplifying what motivation is and constructing strawmen, it's a fairly complex subject: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motivation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motivation > Motivation is a temporary mental bath that constantly needs renewing. > Intrinsic motivation can be long-lasting and self-sustaining. Interestingly enough, this sort of motivation is perceived as superior to the motivation you're suggesting (if you are using the word discipline), which is punishment based. I can't help but think that this is simply a case of drastic misuse of terms. If there was something of substance to be said here, I'd expect to see a discussion about extrinsic/intrinsic motivation, how it plays into self-control, and related pathways. Pop-culture uses of discipline, grit, and other nebulous terms should not be used as truth.