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It's interesting that you jump directly to that interpretation. I would have interpreted it to mean that GP believes that the state should not restrict the righ
by ci5er 10y ago
It's interesting that you jump directly to that interpretation. I would have interpreted it to mean that GP believes that the state should not restrict the right of an adult of sound-mind to self-terminate. Given the nature of the state, there would probably be forms and evaluations.
Even if I were to agree with GP, I'd probably still stop my friend high on ketamine from walking in front of a bus (if he actually exists, that is).
- khedoros1 10y ago"anybody, for any reason" is extremely inclusive. You could argue that they meant "an adult of sound mind", or some other somewhat reasonable thing, but that's not what they said. Without a clearer specification, I think it's reasonable to push at the the edge cases to try to figure out what exactly they meant, and what limits (if any) they might like to add.
- ci5er 10y agoOh, I agree. When I read GP, I was actually a bit confounded by how my reading was so automatically self-limiting.
- DanielBMarkham 10y agoThanks guys. I meant adult of sound mind. I was going to correct or reply, but I felt it would be more useful to the forum to have folks push the edges and discuss them. I don't claim to have an in-depth analysis of those edge cases. As a suggested place to start, if the state feels that you are able to live on your own -- provide yourself food and clothing, make choices about your location and lifestyle -- you should probably be able to make the decision to self terminate. Or rather, you are able to do that whether we like it or not, the question is really whether or not we feel we should use force to stop you. I don't think we should.
- nommm-nommm 10y ago>of sound-mind How do we determine this? What's a sound mind? One may argue that if one wants to die they, by definition, aren't in a sound mind and need mental health services instead.
- ci5er 10y agoAnd, in fact, they do measure it that way (at least in parts of the US). Once I couldn't get released from a hospital for a physical problem - and they used the same argument. Because they could. (I ended up calling my lawyer who came and reassured them that I was indeed crazy to want to leave, but that their liability ended when I signed the acknowledgement that I might die at any moment.) I'd assume that if it were to become legal, there would be some sort of evaluation process - the state does like its checklist of criteria met.
- nommm-nommm 10y agoIn practice the evaluation process is a complete joke. https://dredf.org/public-policy/assisted-suicide/some-oregon-assisted-suicide-abuses-and-complications/ https://dredf.org/public-policy/assisted-suicide/some-oregon...
- ci5er 10y agoI know. But the boxes, they must be checked. You can't do nothing.