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I agree - I think React is simple enough that there's no reason not to besides the overhead of JSX preprocessing (which I suppose isn't required but I would def

I agree - I think React is simple enough that there's no reason not to besides the overhead of JSX preprocessing (which I suppose isn't required but I would definitely recommend). It really is more of a library than a framework, which is great for starting out because there are fewer concepts to understand. Then when you start adding more people and your application gets more complicated and you need to manage your data flow in a more consistent way, you can add something like Redux after the fact incrementally. As long as you don't let components become too large, refactoring isn't too difficult.

andybak 10y ago
React isn't that simple. You still have all the package manager/transpiler/build baggage. You still sacrifice pages that aren't blank if javascript is disabled of fails and all the potential SEO/accessibility costs of that. And you suddenly end up with great globs of javascript in a page that might not need it.
- thatswrong0 10y ago
  None of those things has anything to do with the inherent simplicity of the library itself.
  - andybak 10y ago
    Out of the two simplicities one has an actual impact on usage.
    - thatswrong0 10y ago
      I guess what I really meant to say is that you could levy the exact same concerns on many other libraries / frameworks. None of that is specific to React. I guess I was also assuming that if the OP was considering using React in the first place, that they were doing more with jQuery than just minor interactivity improvements. But I suppose your concerns are valid if that assumption isn't true. I'm thinking app, not blog.
      - andybak 10y ago
        Maybe he was but I do worry that anyone new to front-end is being pushed towards frameworks rather than being told to start with the simplest approach possible. I saw a comment from someone a few weeks ago who knew angular but had never used jQuery. I was rather baffled how that had come to pass!

andybak 10y ago

React isn't that simple. You still have all the package manager/transpiler/build baggage. You still sacrifice pages that aren't blank if javascript is disabled of fails and all the potential SEO/accessibility costs of that. And you suddenly end up with great globs of javascript in a page that might not need it.

thatswrong0 10y ago
None of those things has anything to do with the inherent simplicity of the library itself.
- andybak 10y ago
  Out of the two simplicities one has an actual impact on usage.
  - thatswrong0 10y ago
    I guess what I really meant to say is that you could levy the exact same concerns on many other libraries / frameworks. None of that is specific to React. I guess I was also assuming that if the OP was considering using React in the first place, that they were doing more with jQuery than just minor interactivity improvements. But I suppose your concerns are valid if that assumption isn't true. I'm thinking app, not blog.
    - andybak 10y ago
      Maybe he was but I do worry that anyone new to front-end is being pushed towards frameworks rather than being told to start with the simplest approach possible. I saw a comment from someone a few weeks ago who knew angular but had never used jQuery. I was rather baffled how that had come to pass!