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> smartphone market has become really boring The time when even Android fans wish Steve Jobs was still around. Innovation has faltered and we are now just foc

> smartphone market has become really boring The time when even Android fans wish Steve Jobs was still around. Innovation has faltered and we are now just focusing on incremental improvements in current techs. No new trends.

coldpie 10y ago
What kind of new trends do you want? Stupid motion gestures that activate when you don't want them to, and don't when you do? More features based on voice recognition that send you to Texas when you want to go across town? More biometrics features that add cost without any benefit? More poorly supported tech features like MTP that obfuscate the computing base behind the OS, making basic computing tasks like file transfers difficult? Some garbage "3D screen" effect that makes text jimmy around when you tilt the phone for some reason?
- tluyben2 10y ago
  Really big batteries would be a great trend...
- maelito 10y ago
  Solar phones ?
- nashashmi 10y ago
  Front-facing camera was a new trend. Siri was a new trend. Cloud was a new trend. Tap-and-pay was a belated new trend. Newer trends could be 1) iPhone/Tablet docks to a full laptop (Continuity was a dismal step). 2) App synergies between web and phone 3) daul screen phones 4) perfected implementations of all of the throwaway features you mentioned. I guess the trends are now focused on smart watches. But it is underwhelming. I am not going to give examples, because there will be plenty of dissenters. But the smartwatch could be so much more.
digi_owl 10y ago
Say what? No, Jobs and iPhone was what turned the market into glass slabs! Back when Nokia and Ericcson (never mind Siemens) was the primary engines of phone design you got some real attempts at innovation.
- anu7df 10y ago
  I have heard this Jobs bashing quite a few times and it has always left me confused. Here is what I know. Before iPhone I had a n-something phone from Nokia that in principle was a phone sized laptop. Yet, I never browsed on it unless I had to. There were some pointless apps, some "productivity" apps and some Uber technical apps none of which I would use because there was no user base. Ie.. no point looking at maps for restaurants, since it was an alphabetical list. Using browser to google something was a pain with the tedious UI. I could go on.. I am no apple fanboy. Never had an iPhone after version 2 or so. But let's give credit where it is due. Design is not just about form. It is also about usability. iPhone made the phone form factor usable for the masses. Sometimes the innovation is flawless execution.
  - digi_owl 10y ago
    Sounds like a Nokia Communicator series, but hard to say exactly what vintage (they existed between 1996 and 2007 after all).

coldpie 10y ago

What kind of new trends do you want? Stupid motion gestures that activate when you don't want them to, and don't when you do? More features based on voice recognition that send you to Texas when you want to go across town? More biometrics features that add cost without any benefit? More poorly supported tech features like MTP that obfuscate the computing base behind the OS, making basic computing tasks like file transfers difficult? Some garbage "3D screen" effect that makes text jimmy around when you tilt the phone for some reason?

tluyben2 10y ago
Really big batteries would be a great trend...
maelito 10y ago
Solar phones ?
nashashmi 10y ago
Front-facing camera was a new trend. Siri was a new trend. Cloud was a new trend. Tap-and-pay was a belated new trend. Newer trends could be 1) iPhone/Tablet docks to a full laptop (Continuity was a dismal step). 2) App synergies between web and phone 3) daul screen phones 4) perfected implementations of all of the throwaway features you mentioned. I guess the trends are now focused on smart watches. But it is underwhelming. I am not going to give examples, because there will be plenty of dissenters. But the smartwatch could be so much more.

digi_owl 10y ago

Say what? No, Jobs and iPhone was what turned the market into glass slabs! Back when Nokia and Ericcson (never mind Siemens) was the primary engines of phone design you got some real attempts at innovation.

anu7df 10y ago
I have heard this Jobs bashing quite a few times and it has always left me confused. Here is what I know. Before iPhone I had a n-something phone from Nokia that in principle was a phone sized laptop. Yet, I never browsed on it unless I had to. There were some pointless apps, some "productivity" apps and some Uber technical apps none of which I would use because there was no user base. Ie.. no point looking at maps for restaurants, since it was an alphabetical list. Using browser to google something was a pain with the tedious UI. I could go on.. I am no apple fanboy. Never had an iPhone after version 2 or so. But let's give credit where it is due. Design is not just about form. It is also about usability. iPhone made the phone form factor usable for the masses. Sometimes the innovation is flawless execution.
- digi_owl 10y ago
  Sounds like a Nokia Communicator series, but hard to say exactly what vintage (they existed between 1996 and 2007 after all).