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>the penalties for stealing content (5 years felony conviction plus $250,000 fine for each movie downloaded So where exactly do you face such penalties for dow

by ryanlol 10y ago

>the penalties for stealing content (5 years felony conviction plus $250,000 fine for each movie downloaded So where exactly do you face such penalties for downloading content?

seibelj 10y ago
It's actually $500k https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_law_of_the_United_States#Criminal_penalties https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_law_of_the_United_St...
- ryanlol 10y ago
  And how many people have faced criminal copyright charges for downloading movies in the US? (hint: none)
  - seibelj 10y ago
    Uhhhh I forgot to respond to this before now, but hundreds every year? Here is one[0]. Another from the Media Institute shows the number of convictions per year through 2011[1]. I don't even understand your arguments. First you didn't believe the penalties were that harsh, then I showed you, then you didn't think anyone actually went to jail, then I showed you. I guess next you'll say no one has ever been executed by the state for downloading movies, so the laws are fine? [0] https://torrentfreak.com/87-months-in-prison-for-copyright-infringement-fair-sentence-or-utter-madness-130608/ https://torrentfreak.com/87-months-in-prison-for-copyright-i... [1] http://www.mediainstitute.org/IPI/2011/052511.php http://www.mediainstitute.org/IPI/2011/052511.php
    - ryanlol 10y ago
      I don't think you understand. There's a big difference between civil and criminal copyright infringement and it's not exactly easy to commit criminal copyright infringement. Downloading movies does not carry any criminal penalties, and the possible civil penalties for downloading are minimal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_Copyright_Law_in_the_United_States#Civil_vs._criminal_copyright_infringement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_Copyright_Law_in_the_... >https://torrentfreak.com/87-months-in-prison-for-copyright-infringement-fair-sentence-or-utter-madness-130608/ https://torrentfreak.com/87-months-in-prison-for-copyright-i... Are you suggesting that a prison sentence was unreasonable for someone selling stolen software licenses at a massive scale? This isn't some guy downloading the newest episode of "Suits", but a somewhat large commercial operation.

by ryanlol 10y ago

>the penalties for stealing content (5 years felony conviction plus $250,000 fine for each movie downloaded So where exactly do you face such penalties for downloading content?

seibelj 10y ago

It's actually $500k https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_law_of_the_United_States#Criminal_penalties https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_law_of_the_United_St...

ryanlol 10y ago
And how many people have faced criminal copyright charges for downloading movies in the US? (hint: none)
- seibelj 10y ago
  Uhhhh I forgot to respond to this before now, but hundreds every year? Here is one[0]. Another from the Media Institute shows the number of convictions per year through 2011[1]. I don't even understand your arguments. First you didn't believe the penalties were that harsh, then I showed you, then you didn't think anyone actually went to jail, then I showed you. I guess next you'll say no one has ever been executed by the state for downloading movies, so the laws are fine? [0] https://torrentfreak.com/87-months-in-prison-for-copyright-infringement-fair-sentence-or-utter-madness-130608/ https://torrentfreak.com/87-months-in-prison-for-copyright-i... [1] http://www.mediainstitute.org/IPI/2011/052511.php http://www.mediainstitute.org/IPI/2011/052511.php
  - ryanlol 10y ago
    I don't think you understand. There's a big difference between civil and criminal copyright infringement and it's not exactly easy to commit criminal copyright infringement. Downloading movies does not carry any criminal penalties, and the possible civil penalties for downloading are minimal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_Copyright_Law_in_the_United_States#Civil_vs._criminal_copyright_infringement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_Copyright_Law_in_the_... >https://torrentfreak.com/87-months-in-prison-for-copyright-infringement-fair-sentence-or-utter-madness-130608/ https://torrentfreak.com/87-months-in-prison-for-copyright-i... Are you suggesting that a prison sentence was unreasonable for someone selling stolen software licenses at a massive scale? This isn't some guy downloading the newest episode of "Suits", but a somewhat large commercial operation.