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Yea, let's replace a 3.5mm diameter jack with an 8.4mm x 2.6mm jack. All that space saving!!!! Note the supported formats are all DRM-encumbered? No Vorbis? no
by lightedman 10y ago
Yea, let's replace a 3.5mm diameter jack with an 8.4mm x 2.6mm jack. All that space saving!!!!
Note the supported formats are all DRM-encumbered? No Vorbis? no FLAC?
Gotta love that money grab.
- greenpresident 10y agoAfter moving audio to USB-C, you only need one jack for charging and audio. Space saved right there. You'll also notice that 3.5 > 2.6, so it allows for thinner phones (for whatever that's worth...). USB-C also grips the jack on the inside, likely making the connector inside the phone smaller. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
- kaishiro 10y agoWhich is great, right up until you want to charge the device and use the audio jack. Now we're back to a splitter.
- j-pb 10y agoOr you can have two general purpose ports.
- F_r_k 10y agoOr,you know, add another port..
- arthurfm 10y agoIf smartphone manufacturer replace the 3.5mm jack with a USB-C port to save space, doesn't adding a second USB-C port (which will remained unused most of the time) defeat the point and also increase their costs?
- hyperbovine 10y agoThis argument, which was everywhere when apple launched the 7, seems like such a straw man. How often do people actually do this? Me: never. If you are charging your device, odds are good that you are within a foot of your desktop of laptop.
- mschuster91 10y agoFour words: power bank + Pokemon Go. Or substitute ANY popular mobile game, because gaming essentially guzzles your battery, and you don't want your fellow subway riders have to listen to your game. (People actually have gotten violent towards offenders)
- Accacin 10y agoI agree it's not often that I do it, but it does happen. For instance if you're on a plane? Normally I'll have my phone charging via powerbank or USB port, and I'll have my headphones plugged in obviously so I don't annoy everyone. It's not everyday, but it's still going to be annoying the times where it does come into play.
- coderjames 10y agoMy wife does this pretty much every night with her iPhone SE. Listens to music on her EarPods while keeping it charged up.
- TeMPOraL 10y agoGaming on the go is one example, but also - if you happen to have a workplace that frowns on streaming music, or for some reason decide to use phone as your music source, then you actually want to listen while charging, so that when you leave work you don't have an almost-dead battery.
- SturgeonsLaw 10y agoTwice daily. Charge the phone while running a line into the car's aux in.
- hyperbovine 10y agodo they even make car stereos anymore that do not have Bluetooth?
- falcolas 10y agoBluetooth audio quality is lossy and poor, compared to an analog line. Plus, my car's Bluetooth driver crapped out, putting it in a constant "starting up" state that even pulling the battery hasn't resolved.
- Retr0spectrum 10y agoThe majority of devices that implement type C will likely also have induction charging.
- erkkie 10y agoNope, with faster charge via usb power delivery built in, inductive charging is on its way out. The premise is that a short plug in gives enough charge to keep going. See the nexus line, which used to include inductive charging and dropped it with the usb-c compatible phones.
- moogly 10y agoSadly, the number of phones with wireless charging have plummeted over the years. There's practically only Samsung left now. It's dead, Jim. Such a shame.
- josho 10y agoFor the last year I've been doing exactly that with an iPhone dock. Yes it's an additional accessory, but if you have a $600+ phone plus $600/yr for service then you can probably afford a dock. So, let's move on from this talking point.
- melling 10y agoSo, then you use a splitter. Most people don't do this. Optimize for the many, not the few. Wouldn't the better solution be to have wireless headphones so you are tethered to the chair while your phone is charging?
- HNSucksAss 10y ago"you only need one jack for charging and audio" How are you going to do both at the same time? What a stupid statement. Oh yeah, let's turn our "thin, elegant" phones into a Christmas tree of idiotic splitters and dongles. And don't forget any of them on your vacation, or you won't be enjoying music in your rental car! Or watching movies on the plane with your girlfriend! Or... basically getting VALUE from what you paid for. Spineless apologists allow shit like this to happen. Thanks.
- MatthewWilkes 10y agoOr, just switch charging to a 3.5mm jack.
- userbinator 10y agoThe later iPod shuffles did that, if I remember correctly. Not bad except for the fact that some people are going to be plugging chargers into audio-only ports, inevitably causing some damage.
- userbinator 10y agoAfter moving audio to USB-C, you only need one jack for charging and audio. Space saved right there. You're kidding, right? It's not "space saved" if phones are still hand-sized (or larger); there is plenty of empty space around the edge for two, three, or more ports even after allowing for blank areas to hold onto. A dumbphone from 10 years ago was smaller, yet still managed to include audio and charging/data. The situation is even more puzzling with laptops and tablets, where the device is obviously large enough to accommodate several full-size USB ports around its edge, and yet manufacturers seem reluctant to add even one; there's also this amusing site: http://www.tabletswithusbports.net/ http://www.tabletswithusbports.net/
- lightedman 10y ago"You'll also notice that 3.5 > 2.6" And originally phones came with a 2.5mm plug for audio. Not a convincing argument you're making, here. "After moving audio to USB-C, you only need one jack for charging and audio." Okay, so I'm back to a splitter for audio and power at the same time (which is very often when you're on the road using the GPS on your phone and avoiding local FM stations.) "USB-C also grips the jack on the inside, likely making the connector inside the phone smaller." Guess how a TRS jack works?