> Pulseaudio is included by default in almost every Linux distribution. Certainly in every major Linux distribution. This is Mozilla not catering to the 1%. I

> Pulseaudio is included by default in almost every Linux distribution. Certainly in every major Linux distribution. This is Mozilla not catering to the 1%. I agree. It's a natural reaction for a company struggling to find its purpose. I hope for all our sakes it helps Mozilla survive. > Who's stepping up Well, that's the crux of the problem. Very few people are qualified. Those that are qualified almost universally do not have the backing of Red Hat. It is the opinion of many that both pulseaudio and systemd achieved market dominance because of politicoeconomic reasons, rather than a technological decision-making process. It is very, very hard to prove otherwise... which is why we get these ridiculous religious wars on the topic. Personally, I don't care. The bugs I've run into in both pulse and systemd are always products of naivete rather than some ficticious malicious plot. Growing pains, like all other projects undergo. The problem we are starting to have is that we are losing portability in the process. The more software requiring libpulse and libsystemd, the more difficult it is for novel approaches to survive. A posix capability layer is one thing. How does a new player enter the game, when libpulse and libsytemd have no specification? It feels a little like embrace/extend/extinguish. I have no reason to move away from linux. I have no problem using systemd and pulseaudio on all my systems. But I do understand why some might miss the days when the barier was lower. Dismissing and/or demonizing the people who think that way isn't particularly productive, and neither is telling them their opinions are irrelevant. I hope we move past "if you don't like it reimplement it yourself" one day. The ability to do so was what gave us systemd and pulseaudio, but the requirement that it be done before you can be taken seriously doesn't really add much value.