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I guess you've never heard of Brendan Eich.

by mordant 10y ago

tedunangst 10y ago
Was Eich harassed because he was a man?
- tptacek 10y ago
  No, and while I agree with neither Eich's politics nor what happened to him, I somehow find myself having no trouble holding those beliefs in my head at the same time as I do the ones I've expressed on this thread.
- Normal_gaussian 10y ago
  That isn't the case being made: "men become targets of similar harassment campaigns" was the case. Not "men become targets of similar harassment campaigns because of their gender" If you want to qualify away from beliefs towards physical properties then fine. Lets turn around and look at those harassed for their hair colour. How about skin colour? Origin? Things other members of their family have done?
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  - tedunangst 10y ago
    If one person is targeted because of their gender and one person is targeted because of their beliefs, I would qualify those situations as dissimilar.
    - Normal_gaussian 10y ago
      I said: > If you want to qualify away from beliefs towards physical properties then fine. Lets turn around and look at those harassed for their hair colour. How about skin colour? Origin? Things other members of their family have done? I do not understand why this is not sufficient to preempt your comment. In case it is not here are some example I have found alongside their google search terms: * "Ginger driven to suicide" http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2507153/Bullied-ginger-Wolverhampton-schoolboy-Simon-Walters-14-hanged.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2507153/Bullied-ging... * "footballer harassed racial" https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2013/may/13/racism-mario-balotelli-kevin-prince-boateng-italy https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2013/may/13/racism... * "father harassed by" http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-06-28/sandy-hook-massacre-victims-parents-harassed-by-truthers/7546536 http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-06-28/sandy-hook-massacre-vi...

I guess you've never heard of Brendan Eich.

by mordant 10y ago

I guess you've never heard of Brendan Eich.

tedunangst 10y ago

Was Eich harassed because he was a man?

tptacek 10y ago
No, and while I agree with neither Eich's politics nor what happened to him, I somehow find myself having no trouble holding those beliefs in my head at the same time as I do the ones I've expressed on this thread.
Normal_gaussian 10y ago
That isn't the case being made: "men become targets of similar harassment campaigns" was the case. Not "men become targets of similar harassment campaigns because of their gender" If you want to qualify away from beliefs towards physical properties then fine. Lets turn around and look at those harassed for their hair colour. How about skin colour? Origin? Things other members of their family have done?
- deleted 10y ago
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- tedunangst 10y ago
  If one person is targeted because of their gender and one person is targeted because of their beliefs, I would qualify those situations as dissimilar.
  - Normal_gaussian 10y ago
    I said: > If you want to qualify away from beliefs towards physical properties then fine. Lets turn around and look at those harassed for their hair colour. How about skin colour? Origin? Things other members of their family have done? I do not understand why this is not sufficient to preempt your comment. In case it is not here are some example I have found alongside their google search terms: * "Ginger driven to suicide" http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2507153/Bullied-ginger-Wolverhampton-schoolboy-Simon-Walters-14-hanged.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2507153/Bullied-ging... * "footballer harassed racial" https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2013/may/13/racism-mario-balotelli-kevin-prince-boateng-italy https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2013/may/13/racism... * "father harassed by" http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-06-28/sandy-hook-massacre-victims-parents-harassed-by-truthers/7546536 http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-06-28/sandy-hook-massacre-vi...