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The best thing you can do is to make a point of getting an explicit expected response interval from the most important decision maker you can identify in the pr
by kafkaesq 10y ago
The best thing you can do is to make a point of getting an explicit expected response interval from the most important decision maker you can identify in the process (which generally means not the HR flaky† who escorts you in/out, brings you water, and sometimes corners you for a useless wrap-up chat at the end). Particular bullet points you want to get are:
- "So what's you're process moving forward?" Specifically, as to whether there will be additional rounds, or they're done and have all they need from you to make a decision.
- "When can I expect to hear about [the next step]?"
- "And when's the latest I can expect to hear something?"
The last one is crucial, so you'll want to (gently) nail it down as best as you can. So if they say "within a few days" on a Tuesday, you can say "So by the end of the week, or at the latest, beginning of next week?". That will solidify things in their mind, and gently remind them that it will be somewhat rude if they don't respond to you by then.
It also makes the question of whether to send a follow-up mail much less gut-wrenching (and in my view, pretty much removes the need for it altogether). By that I mean do send a thank you note (24-48 hours later, max). But once you've nailed down the response window with the primary decision maker, it's really in their court. If you want you can send a proper follow-up mail, gently reminding them that you were expecting to hear something by about that time. Strictly speaking, you don't need to -- if a shop doesn't respond (in any form) on a time frame more or less in line with when they explicitly said they would (thanks to your making a point to ask while on-site), you can be pretty sure they aren't, as the saying goes, all that into you.
But then again, you don't need to care, either -- because everyone knows that's just shabby, and that shops that do that don't really have their act together. And would probably treat you shabbily in other ways, were you to start working for them.
† But for good measure, go ahead and ask him/her, also. Because it usually ends up being their job to write the actual rejection email, should you be lucky enough to get one.
- thefastlane 10y agothanks, this is really helpful. over the course of my career i've become highly attuned to what are obvious hiccups in the interview process and i take them into consideration. but it's times when things are genuinely up in the air that i have more difficulty in assessing the situation (such is life i suppose). i see how the idea of establishing any sort of an agreed upon response interval, however casual or imprecise, can provide some anchoring for both parties. in a past job, i realized my boss had not wanted to hire me and had effectively been overriden by someone further up the org chart -- it cast the interviews and phone calls i'd had in an entirely new light, and is part of what has prompted me to soberly evaluate every step of the interview/onboard process during job hops now.
- kafkaesq 10y agoThat was what was key for me to understand, also (when I started to research this a bit, and ask other people about their experiences): both that the process has gotten weirder, and that one seems to have to go through 3x as many rounds of it, these days. Interestingly, I once had someone override me about hiring someone I recommended a pass on, and that person turned to be quite good. Not that this should be done lightly. But that experienced caused me to step back a bit, and look at how I was making snap judgements about people (and yes, perhaps letting the authority of deciding others' fate go to my head a bit).