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This is what I love about Hacker News. I think it is one of those rare few places where one voices his/her opinion and gets back an amazing, intelligent, well t

by emanuer 17y ago

This is what I love about Hacker News. I think it is one of those rare few places where one voices his/her opinion and gets back an amazing, intelligent, well thought through response. As I have not been in the business in the 1990s I can only rely on records of people who saw it first hand. I enjoyed your post so much, because it is a very thorough explanation for an issue I heard only very onesided opinions so far.

ahoyhere 17y ago
Glad you liked it. What I strongly dislike about HN is how such a high percentage of commentors feel that, because they are smart in a given topic, they can hold forth on any topic. I'm tired of seeing people get the facts so wrong about Apple, Apple's history, the legality or precendents for 3.3.1, etc., etc., etc. Not because I care. The truth doesn't care, it just goes on being true. But because it's a bunch of people who have no clue, arguing with other people who also have no clue. It's like a contest for who can make up the most shit. There are tons of books that detail Apple's history. If you want to learn about Apple, read Accidental Empires, Apple Confidential 2.0, West of Eden, Insanely Great: Life and Times. There's the book Wozniak co-wrote, taht told his side of the story, and there are several books that focus on Jobs. Gil Amelio even wrote a whine-ography called Firing Line. Sculley wrote one called, if you can believe it or not, Odyssey. Apple didn't happen in Ancient Mesopotamia, it happened in the 1970s. There is massive amounts of documentation. There's absolutely no excuse to debating it in ignorance. And there's tons to gain from studying Apple, because it's got a fascinating history and had an unbelievably enormous impact on what the tech world looks like today. There are plenty of people on HN making the same stupid mistakes that nearly "killed" Apple as a successful company (regardless of how much cash they had). "History doesn't repeat itself, but it rhymes." - Twain

by emanuer 17y ago

ahoyhere 17y ago

Glad you liked it. What I strongly dislike about HN is how such a high percentage of commentors feel that, because they are smart in a given topic, they can hold forth on any topic. I'm tired of seeing people get the facts so wrong about Apple, Apple's history, the legality or precendents for 3.3.1, etc., etc., etc. Not because I care. The truth doesn't care, it just goes on being true. But because it's a bunch of people who have no clue, arguing with other people who also have no clue. It's like a contest for who can make up the most shit. There are tons of books that detail Apple's history. If you want to learn about Apple, read Accidental Empires, Apple Confidential 2.0, West of Eden, Insanely Great: Life and Times. There's the book Wozniak co-wrote, taht told his side of the story, and there are several books that focus on Jobs. Gil Amelio even wrote a whine-ography called Firing Line. Sculley wrote one called, if you can believe it or not, Odyssey. Apple didn't happen in Ancient Mesopotamia, it happened in the 1970s. There is massive amounts of documentation. There's absolutely no excuse to debating it in ignorance. And there's tons to gain from studying Apple, because it's got a fascinating history and had an unbelievably enormous impact on what the tech world looks like today. There are plenty of people on HN making the same stupid mistakes that nearly "killed" Apple as a successful company (regardless of how much cash they had). "History doesn't repeat itself, but it rhymes." - Twain