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This is a mostly solved problem in the most of the world. (but only mostly). lock the cabinet, have cameras, have a non-flat shaped card reader slot (preferabl

This is a mostly solved problem in the most of the world. (but only mostly). lock the cabinet, have cameras, have a non-flat shaped card reader slot (preferably with a picture of what it should look like stuck next to the reader), have a sealed emv/pci compliant reader/pin pad component, schedule regular checks of the equipment, remote alarm the pump enclosure. and finally have credit card companies or head office tear shit out of the site if they don't have these.

67726e 10y ago
Unless the legislature forces this, I doubt it will happen. The banks and credit cards have turned these exploits into a problem of the individual instead of a problem of the institution (which has shit security). So you and I get stuck with the fraud and they get paid, typically.
- basseq 10y ago
  I've been the victim of a couple forms of fraud (fraudulent charges in TX, Macy's CC opened in my wife's name) and the CC companies bent over backwards to accommodate us. No hesitation that the charges would be reversed, holds placed on the account, and new cards sent. That and fraud detection is getting better. I went home to visit my parents (2 hours away), got gas, then exchanged USD for €300. That triggered their algorithms (as well it should have), and I got a text about 10s after I swiped my card.
  - 67726e 10y ago
    That's interesting that my mom has had the exact opposite experience with getting their identity stolen and fraudulent cards opened in their name.
- novaleaf 10y ago
  > So you and I get stuck with the fraud and they get paid, typically. Not true with credit cards, but very true with debit cards. Don't use/carry debit cards. have your bank re-issue you an ATM-only card instead.
gambiting 10y ago
Or just don't accept swipe-only cards at pumps(or any machines where there is no human). But that's not going to happen until every person in US upgraded their card to chip-and-pin.
- x1798DE 10y ago
  I don't know how much this would help by itself. People installing skimmers can just install something that looks like a swiper even though the transaction would never complete. I think most if not all cards in the US with a chip can still be used online, so swiping it at all still gets you enough to use the card.

67726e 10y ago

Unless the legislature forces this, I doubt it will happen. The banks and credit cards have turned these exploits into a problem of the individual instead of a problem of the institution (which has shit security). So you and I get stuck with the fraud and they get paid, typically.

basseq 10y ago
I've been the victim of a couple forms of fraud (fraudulent charges in TX, Macy's CC opened in my wife's name) and the CC companies bent over backwards to accommodate us. No hesitation that the charges would be reversed, holds placed on the account, and new cards sent. That and fraud detection is getting better. I went home to visit my parents (2 hours away), got gas, then exchanged USD for €300. That triggered their algorithms (as well it should have), and I got a text about 10s after I swiped my card.
- 67726e 10y ago
  That's interesting that my mom has had the exact opposite experience with getting their identity stolen and fraudulent cards opened in their name.
novaleaf 10y ago
> So you and I get stuck with the fraud and they get paid, typically. Not true with credit cards, but very true with debit cards. Don't use/carry debit cards. have your bank re-issue you an ATM-only card instead.

gambiting 10y ago

Or just don't accept swipe-only cards at pumps(or any machines where there is no human). But that's not going to happen until every person in US upgraded their card to chip-and-pin.

x1798DE 10y ago
I don't know how much this would help by itself. People installing skimmers can just install something that looks like a swiper even though the transaction would never complete. I think most if not all cards in the US with a chip can still be used online, so swiping it at all still gets you enough to use the card.