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Show HN: Serverless WebSocket chat

8 points by jkarneges 10y ago

tracker1 10y ago
I had expected something cool with webRTC based on the title. While pushpin and stack are interesting, this is anything but serverless, especially since you'll still need to configure these "serverless" hosts. I wish "serverless" as a term for PaaS frameworks would go away already, I don't think anyone should/would consider, for example SalesForce a "serverless" development option.
- gravypod 10y ago
  Yea I was really excited. Hoping to see something with webrtc and webtorrent for sending all of the stylesheets and what not. This is not "serverless" anymore than the JVM is serverless just because it's running on a VM/HAL.
- jkarneges 10y ago
  Is there a better term to use to describe the concept of programming a service with short-lived executable blocks? Function-as-a-Service (FaaS) comes to mind, although to me that implies a third party host. What's kind of funny is old web servers used to work almost exactly this way, running a program in isolation for every incoming request (CGI scripts anyone?), but that was well before the rise of REST and intentionally stateless development, so it didn't get a buzzword. We've come full circle.
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  - tracker1 10y ago
    CGI 2.0?
_Marak_ 10y ago
Author of stack here. Please let me know if you have any questions about the project. see: https://github.com/Stackvana/stack https://github.com/Stackvana/stack
le-mark 10y ago
Queue the "serverless" haters. Guys, it's a real term, that seeks to describe a real and growing phenomenon. No one wants to read stupid pedantitry that contributes nothing to the conversation. http://martinfowler.com/articles/serverless.html http://martinfowler.com/articles/serverless.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_charity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_charity
- brazzledazzle 10y ago
  I'm starting to think these people don't really have an interest in changing their views. If it wasn't this it would be about something else and they'd be making snarky drive-by comments on someone else's ShowHN.
  - marktangotango 10y ago
    Oh they do, I see it. To most people, serverless doesn't mean no server, because that is absurd. It really means "server I don't have to admin". Maybe adminless would be more appropriate?

8 points by jkarneges 10y ago

I had expected something cool with webRTC based on the title. While pushpin and stack are interesting, this is anything but serverless, especially since you'll still need to configure these "serverless" hosts. I wish "serverless" as a term for PaaS frameworks would go away already, I don't think anyone should/would consider, for example SalesForce a "serverless" development option.

gravypod 10y ago
Yea I was really excited. Hoping to see something with webrtc and webtorrent for sending all of the stylesheets and what not. This is not "serverless" anymore than the JVM is serverless just because it's running on a VM/HAL.
jkarneges 10y ago
Is there a better term to use to describe the concept of programming a service with short-lived executable blocks? Function-as-a-Service (FaaS) comes to mind, although to me that implies a third party host. What's kind of funny is old web servers used to work almost exactly this way, running a program in isolation for every incoming request (CGI scripts anyone?), but that was well before the rise of REST and intentionally stateless development, so it didn't get a buzzword. We've come full circle.
- deleted 10y ago
  [deleted]
- tracker1 10y ago
  CGI 2.0?

_Marak_ 10y ago

Author of stack here. Please let me know if you have any questions about the project. see: https://github.com/Stackvana/stack https://github.com/Stackvana/stack

le-mark 10y ago

Queue the "serverless" haters. Guys, it's a real term, that seeks to describe a real and growing phenomenon. No one wants to read stupid pedantitry that contributes nothing to the conversation. http://martinfowler.com/articles/serverless.html http://martinfowler.com/articles/serverless.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_charity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_charity

brazzledazzle 10y ago
I'm starting to think these people don't really have an interest in changing their views. If it wasn't this it would be about something else and they'd be making snarky drive-by comments on someone else's ShowHN.
- marktangotango 10y ago
  Oh they do, I see it. To most people, serverless doesn't mean no server, because that is absurd. It really means "server I don't have to admin". Maybe adminless would be more appropriate?