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If only people weren't so scared of nuclear.

kuschku 10y ago
If only nuclear companies didn’t cheap out on everything and bribed their way past all regulations and inspections. EDIT: mostly talking here from a German perspective, where several scandals of corruption, bribing inspectors, and drilling holes into the containment vessel under operation have become public in the past years.
- maerF0x0 10y ago
  if only there was an organization that was given the task and jurisdiction to prosecute criminals.
  - alttab 10y ago
    The FBI? Don't hold your breath...
- tertius 10y ago
  If only the greenies didn't lobby for insane levels of regulation on nuclear so that we can actually build a plant in less than 30 years.
  - deleted 10y ago
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rando444 10y ago
Nuclear at the moment isn't scaleable. We already have more nuclear waste than is currently able to be stored.. and we're talking about stuff that is going to remain deadly for tens of thousands of years. There's nowhere to put the stuff unless we start blasting it out into outer space or develop ways to use it for more energy.
- CamperBob2 10y ago
  There's nowhere to put the stuff unless we start blasting it out into outer space or develop ways to use it for more energy. Put it in Antarctica.
- Zardoz84 10y ago
  And without founding on new kind of nuclear reactors that burns nuclear wasted. Good job!
- oh_sigh 10y ago
  Where are we putting waste from all the coal firing plants? Directly into the air!
  - einrealist 10y ago
    Does not make it an excuse for nuclear either.
    - oh_sigh 10y ago
      When you have to choose one of two options, then yes it does offset.
- Keyframe 10y ago
  I agree that there are issues, but issues that can be solved if more research and energy is put into it. Nuclear waste being the primary concern. Space depot is an interesting option for sure. Nuclear became a priori taboo for some odd reason though. That's why it lacks political momentum behind it. Nuclear can and should be solution for this.
- wang_li 10y ago
  > We already have more nuclear waste than is currently able to be stored.. Don't you mean, "If only we had a place to externalize the waste storage problem." All the nuclear waste obviously has a place to store it, I mean it's somewhere right now isn't it?
- 10y ago
hacker42 10y ago
To substantiate this comment a bit, David MacKay wrote a good book on this matter: https://www.withouthotair.com/c24/page_161.shtml https://www.withouthotair.com/c24/page_161.shtml
porker 10y ago
Is there a source of lifetime costs (financial and environmental) for nuclear, compared to other fuels? I only remember the data from university over 18 years ago, when both nuclear and hydro came out very poorly on emissions (due to the concrete involved, storage/reprocessing, and biological matter decomposing in the lagoon for hydro).
- Keyframe 10y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics_of_nuclear_power_plants https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics_of_nuclear_power_pla... and an overview of the cycle: http://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/nuclear-fuel-cycle/introduction/nuclear-fuel-cycle-overview.aspx http://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/nuclear-fue...

If only nuclear companies didn’t cheap out on everything and bribed their way past all regulations and inspections. EDIT: mostly talking here from a German perspective, where several scandals of corruption, bribing inspectors, and drilling holes into the containment vessel under operation have become public in the past years.

maerF0x0 10y ago
if only there was an organization that was given the task and jurisdiction to prosecute criminals.
- alttab 10y ago
  The FBI? Don't hold your breath...
tertius 10y ago
If only the greenies didn't lobby for insane levels of regulation on nuclear so that we can actually build a plant in less than 30 years.
- deleted 10y ago
  [deleted]

rando444 10y ago

Nuclear at the moment isn't scaleable. We already have more nuclear waste than is currently able to be stored.. and we're talking about stuff that is going to remain deadly for tens of thousands of years. There's nowhere to put the stuff unless we start blasting it out into outer space or develop ways to use it for more energy.

CamperBob2 10y ago
There's nowhere to put the stuff unless we start blasting it out into outer space or develop ways to use it for more energy. Put it in Antarctica.
Zardoz84 10y ago
And without founding on new kind of nuclear reactors that burns nuclear wasted. Good job!
oh_sigh 10y ago
Where are we putting waste from all the coal firing plants? Directly into the air!
- einrealist 10y ago
  Does not make it an excuse for nuclear either.
  - oh_sigh 10y ago
    When you have to choose one of two options, then yes it does offset.
Keyframe 10y ago
I agree that there are issues, but issues that can be solved if more research and energy is put into it. Nuclear waste being the primary concern. Space depot is an interesting option for sure. Nuclear became a priori taboo for some odd reason though. That's why it lacks political momentum behind it. Nuclear can and should be solution for this.
wang_li 10y ago
> We already have more nuclear waste than is currently able to be stored.. Don't you mean, "If only we had a place to externalize the waste storage problem." All the nuclear waste obviously has a place to store it, I mean it's somewhere right now isn't it?
10y ago

hacker42 10y ago

To substantiate this comment a bit, David MacKay wrote a good book on this matter: https://www.withouthotair.com/c24/page_161.shtml https://www.withouthotair.com/c24/page_161.shtml

porker 10y ago

Is there a source of lifetime costs (financial and environmental) for nuclear, compared to other fuels? I only remember the data from university over 18 years ago, when both nuclear and hydro came out very poorly on emissions (due to the concrete involved, storage/reprocessing, and biological matter decomposing in the lagoon for hydro).

Keyframe 10y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics_of_nuclear_power_plants https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics_of_nuclear_power_pla... and an overview of the cycle: http://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/nuclear-fuel-cycle/introduction/nuclear-fuel-cycle-overview.aspx http://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/nuclear-fue...