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"But I don't blame them, based on whom I was surrounded by. I wouldn't give an inch to the guys laughing and joking about beating up their girlfriends, her kids

by roninb 10y ago

"But I don't blame them, based on whom I was surrounded by. I wouldn't give an inch to the guys laughing and joking about beating up their girlfriends, her kids, the cops, etc, either." But in jail (jail is a term for institutions that hold people no longer than one year, in most cases, a majority of a jails population is transient), how do they know who the murderers and wifebeaters are? Isn't that the point of our justice system? Everyone is treated innocent until proven guilty?

criley2 10y ago
"But in jail (jail is a term for institutions that hold people no longer than one year, in most cases, a majority of a jails population is transient), how do they know who the murderers and wifebeaters are? Isn't that the point of our justice system? Everyone is treated innocent until proven guilty?" I explained it too shortly in my comment in the interest of brevity, sorry. The jail I visited was also a Prison, it served both purposes. The bottom floor was a holding center (jail) while the upper floors were a prison. In this case, when a prison inmate needs to be transferred to another prison -- say they've completed 5 years in county and need to do 10 years in federal -- they are moved downstairs to the holding facility (the jail) that is shared with say people being picked up off the street to hold. In this case, they stored me, a young naive programmer who forgot to pay a ticket, with hardened convicted cop killing murderers who had completed their time in the prison and were being transferred to a new prison. This was a county prison for a top 10 metro and a major city which has gang violence, so these were convicted and often gang related criminals.
- roninb 10y ago
  To clarify, most jails are used to house misdemeanor criminals, those awaiting trial, and transferring prisoners. If you live near a state penitentiary, it's very likely that your most of your city's jails consistently have prisoners transferring out of or into that state penitentiary.

by roninb 10y ago

criley2 10y ago

"But in jail (jail is a term for institutions that hold people no longer than one year, in most cases, a majority of a jails population is transient), how do they know who the murderers and wifebeaters are? Isn't that the point of our justice system? Everyone is treated innocent until proven guilty?" I explained it too shortly in my comment in the interest of brevity, sorry. The jail I visited was also a Prison, it served both purposes. The bottom floor was a holding center (jail) while the upper floors were a prison. In this case, when a prison inmate needs to be transferred to another prison -- say they've completed 5 years in county and need to do 10 years in federal -- they are moved downstairs to the holding facility (the jail) that is shared with say people being picked up off the street to hold. In this case, they stored me, a young naive programmer who forgot to pay a ticket, with hardened convicted cop killing murderers who had completed their time in the prison and were being transferred to a new prison. This was a county prison for a top 10 metro and a major city which has gang violence, so these were convicted and often gang related criminals.

roninb 10y ago
To clarify, most jails are used to house misdemeanor criminals, those awaiting trial, and transferring prisoners. If you live near a state penitentiary, it's very likely that your most of your city's jails consistently have prisoners transferring out of or into that state penitentiary.