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Speaking as someone who has never gone to traffic court, can you tell me how the system handles people with lawyers versus people without lawyers?

• zardo 10y ago
  My lawyer turned a moving violation into a no seatbelt ticket. This had zero basis in reality. I didn't get points on my licence, but still had to pay a fine. People without lawyers didn't know that all that's really important is that you pay fines to the court. You're taking the court's time and you have to pay for it. They tried to deny they sped, the cop said they did, and the ticket stuck.
• tptacek 10y ago
  We answered this on crypto nerd Slack but I'll repeat for the benefit of the class: In Cook County, at least, you're given a time to appear in court. Everyone appears at that time. Cases are handled in alphabetical order. But: if you have a lawyer, your case is handled first --- the lawyers are on the clock, you see --- so there's about an hour and a half of waiting for lawyer after lawyer to come up and get their clients cases dismissed, while everyone else sits doing nothing.
  • shaggerty 10y ago
    How would myself or anyone else interested get on the crypto nerd slack?
    • tptacek 10y ago
      I guess mail me and introduce yourself? It's not like super selective or anything.
      • dsacco 10y ago
        Don't forget the human sacrifice to the crypto-god. No but in all seriousness it's a good time if you like talking/learning/debating cryptography and general security things.
  • tedunangst 10y ago
    That's somewhat weak evidence for your original claim. (Which I don't dispute, but you've lowered the bar here.) How do much do outcomes differ for Mr. Zanzibar with a lawyer and Mr. Ali without a lawyer?