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If they're talking like the person that was described was talking, I absolutely would take away from their success, especially because they've never had to worr
by st3v3r 10y ago
If they're talking like the person that was described was talking, I absolutely would take away from their success, especially because they've never had to worry about any of the stuff that someone who doesn't come from means has to worry about.
Don't get me wrong; finding success is hard, and whenever someone does find it, it should be celebrated. But those that do find it shouldn't discount the struggles of those who aren't able to try, especially if it takes them several tried to find it themselves.
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- hueving 10y ago>I absolutely would take away from their success Why? Because they are an asshole about it? That doesn't reduce their success in any way. If they have offset the losses of their previous endeavors, they have provided a net gain and it's still a success.
- st3v3r 10y agoBecause they're an asshole about it, and because they're ignoring the pure luck advantages they had which made their success possible. And it doesn't matter if they've offset the losses of their previous tries, they still took multiple tries (in and of itself not a problem), which is something most people don't get.
- oldmanjay 10y agoLet me ask a question - what does your attitude benefit you? It seems mostly to make you bitter about things that were never in your control, which seems like an unvarnished negative. Maybe you've found something more helpful.
- majormajor 10y agoI don't think many people have an attitude of "we need to recognize built-in advantages, and should call out people who try to play down or hide them" to benefit themselves - it's an attitude and position adopted to try to benefit those without those advantages. E.g. by showing a beneficial side of certain social safety net policies, or the downside of the default position becoming graduating with massive amounts of student debt, etc.
- st3v3r 10y agoI'm not bitter, I just think that guy is an asshole.
- hueving 10y agoWith that attitude, nobody could ever take any credit for success because there is someone else that had it harder. "Warren Buffet didn't do anything impressive because he grew up with his parents." What a petty way to live.
- st3v3r 10y agoWarren Buffet doesn't discourage and shit on those who haven't been able to do what he has. Again, I would discount the person's success because they're an asshole, and refusing to acknowledge that they were given many privileges and benefits by pure random luck. Buffet routinely acknowledges that he had lots of help getting to where he is today.
- simplemath 10y agothats both a false dichotomy and a strawman. Well played
- eanzenberg 10y agoBecause a lot of humanity wants to shit on others' successes. It's why it's mostly futile to seek outward validation.