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Personnaly it's at least three trips, work, going out and home and sometimes more on the weekend so this is pretty amazing actually. It's much more comfortable

by dorianm 10y ago

Personnaly it's at least three trips, work, going out and home and sometimes more on the weekend so this is pretty amazing actually. It's much more comfortable than taking subways (which is also 100$ a month)

45h34jh53k4j 10y ago
$116.50, +1 for a new metrocard Uber beats subway by $16.50; or three and a bit uberpools/month But there is the whole: subway = nuclear power = low carbon footprint vs uber = dead dinosaurs.
- hiou 10y ago
  And the whole exploiting people who don't understand the math of their business and are actually losing money / putting themselves into life altering IRS debt thing...
- ixtli 10y ago
  Many large companies in manhattan participate in pretax programs that allow people (myself included) to get a monthly metro card for ~60 dollars. So yeah these types of programs will never compete with that.
- ryguytilidie 10y ago
  Does the NYC Subway really run on nuclear power? I had no idea, but that is cool.
  - ynniv 10y ago
    Probably half nuclear: http://www.eia.gov/state/?sid=NY#tabs-4 http://www.eia.gov/state/?sid=NY#tabs-4
    - mikeash 10y ago
      The rest is mostly natural gas, and virtually no coal. I'm jealous! (Here in Virginia, it's about one third each of coal, gas, and nuclear.)
      - pavel_lishin 10y ago
        Isn't Virginia a huge coal-mining state? I'm surprised nuclear is that high of a percentage. I recall visiting a coal-mining museum in some state that had a big coal industry, and it was amazing how optimistic and pro-coal the whole thing was. (Note that I said "amazing", not "surprising".)
        mikeash 10y ago
        There's some here, but most of the coal mining activity is further west. West Virginia is the biggest coal state on the east coast and second biggest in the US. Nice map here: http://www.virginiaplaces.org/geology/coal.html http://www.virginiaplaces.org/geology/coal.html It looks like their electricity is absolutely dominated by coal. Even though not much in mined in state, we're close enough to WV and others that it seems like it would still be the obvious source here. I'm not sure why it's not, although I'm glad!
  - 45h34jh53k4j 10y ago
    Lots of power in NYC is nuclear, but not all. At least some proportion of electrons in that third rail will have be excited by nuclear heat. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_power_stations_in_New_York https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_power_stations_in_New_...
- CPLX 10y ago
  The math here is wrong. Uber is offering two weeks for $100, not one month.
- macandcheese 10y ago
  There's also the whole: subway = not air conditioned and miserable, uber = air conditioned and comfortable. Also, as a Hudson Valley resident for most of my life, Indian Point and nuclear power in general is a huge concern for me.
  - lorenzhs 10y ago
    When I was in New York this summer I carried around a sweater because it was too cold in the subway. It was 30-33°C outside most of the time (the Google machine tells me that's 86-91°F). It's true that the subway stations were miserably hot, though. (I'm European, but you can probably tell from my complaining about American air conditioning)
  - macandcheese 10y ago
    I'd assume I'm getting downvoted because I made a comment about my trepidation towards nuclear power.. If you lived within an emergency evacuation zone for a nuclear plant you may feel the same (disclaimer: I don't, but I lived close enough to Indian Point to feel unsafe, and everytime I take Metro North and see it fly past my window, I think what a risk it is)... Indian Point is a liability to the people and the ecosystems of the lower Hudson Valley. New York State / Cuomo recently denied Entergy's certificate to continue using the Hudson River (1), which they are battling in court. Terrorism risks aside, this is not a state of the art nuclear plant. It's over 40 years old, the bolts are (literally) starting to break (2), and there was a recent radioactive leak (3) into the HUDSON RIVER. How can this not be worrying? It's been shown that NY can maintain energy levels at a cost of 20-30% higher without nuclear power (4), a number I hope will decrease as NY improves wind and solar (mind you, this report is from the Manhattan Institute, a think tank that vehemently supports fracking). This comes down to an increase of $76–$112 per residential customer. Personally, I'd be willing to pay twice that if it meant shutting down IP. 1. http://www.riverkeeper.org/news-events/news/stop-polluters/power-plant-cases/indian-point/ny-department-of-state-denies-critical-indian-point-certification/ http://www.riverkeeper.org/news-events/news/stop-polluters/p... 2. http://www.nrc.gov/reactors/operating/ops-experience/baffle-former-bolts.html http://www.nrc.gov/reactors/operating/ops-experience/baffle-... 3. http://www.lohud.com/story/news/local/indian-point/2016/02/09/federal-specialist-indian-point-radioactive-leak/80087872/ http://www.lohud.com/story/news/local/indian-point/2016/02/0... 4. https://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/economic-impacts-closing-and-replacing-indian-point-energy-center-5988.html https://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/economic-impacts-cl...

by dorianm 10y ago

45h34jh53k4j 10y ago

$116.50, +1 for a new metrocard Uber beats subway by $16.50; or three and a bit uberpools/month But there is the whole: subway = nuclear power = low carbon footprint vs uber = dead dinosaurs.

hiou 10y ago
And the whole exploiting people who don't understand the math of their business and are actually losing money / putting themselves into life altering IRS debt thing...
ixtli 10y ago
Many large companies in manhattan participate in pretax programs that allow people (myself included) to get a monthly metro card for ~60 dollars. So yeah these types of programs will never compete with that.
ryguytilidie 10y ago
Does the NYC Subway really run on nuclear power? I had no idea, but that is cool.
- ynniv 10y ago
  Probably half nuclear: http://www.eia.gov/state/?sid=NY#tabs-4 http://www.eia.gov/state/?sid=NY#tabs-4
  - mikeash 10y ago
    The rest is mostly natural gas, and virtually no coal. I'm jealous! (Here in Virginia, it's about one third each of coal, gas, and nuclear.)
    - pavel_lishin 10y ago
      Isn't Virginia a huge coal-mining state? I'm surprised nuclear is that high of a percentage. I recall visiting a coal-mining museum in some state that had a big coal industry, and it was amazing how optimistic and pro-coal the whole thing was. (Note that I said "amazing", not "surprising".)
      - mikeash 10y ago
        There's some here, but most of the coal mining activity is further west. West Virginia is the biggest coal state on the east coast and second biggest in the US. Nice map here: http://www.virginiaplaces.org/geology/coal.html http://www.virginiaplaces.org/geology/coal.html It looks like their electricity is absolutely dominated by coal. Even though not much in mined in state, we're close enough to WV and others that it seems like it would still be the obvious source here. I'm not sure why it's not, although I'm glad!
- 45h34jh53k4j 10y ago
  Lots of power in NYC is nuclear, but not all. At least some proportion of electrons in that third rail will have be excited by nuclear heat. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_power_stations_in_New_York https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_power_stations_in_New_...
CPLX 10y ago
The math here is wrong. Uber is offering two weeks for $100, not one month.
macandcheese 10y ago
There's also the whole: subway = not air conditioned and miserable, uber = air conditioned and comfortable. Also, as a Hudson Valley resident for most of my life, Indian Point and nuclear power in general is a huge concern for me.
- lorenzhs 10y ago
  When I was in New York this summer I carried around a sweater because it was too cold in the subway. It was 30-33°C outside most of the time (the Google machine tells me that's 86-91°F). It's true that the subway stations were miserably hot, though. (I'm European, but you can probably tell from my complaining about American air conditioning)
- macandcheese 10y ago
  I'd assume I'm getting downvoted because I made a comment about my trepidation towards nuclear power.. If you lived within an emergency evacuation zone for a nuclear plant you may feel the same (disclaimer: I don't, but I lived close enough to Indian Point to feel unsafe, and everytime I take Metro North and see it fly past my window, I think what a risk it is)... Indian Point is a liability to the people and the ecosystems of the lower Hudson Valley. New York State / Cuomo recently denied Entergy's certificate to continue using the Hudson River (1), which they are battling in court. Terrorism risks aside, this is not a state of the art nuclear plant. It's over 40 years old, the bolts are (literally) starting to break (2), and there was a recent radioactive leak (3) into the HUDSON RIVER. How can this not be worrying? It's been shown that NY can maintain energy levels at a cost of 20-30% higher without nuclear power (4), a number I hope will decrease as NY improves wind and solar (mind you, this report is from the Manhattan Institute, a think tank that vehemently supports fracking). This comes down to an increase of $76–$112 per residential customer. Personally, I'd be willing to pay twice that if it meant shutting down IP. 1. http://www.riverkeeper.org/news-events/news/stop-polluters/power-plant-cases/indian-point/ny-department-of-state-denies-critical-indian-point-certification/ http://www.riverkeeper.org/news-events/news/stop-polluters/p... 2. http://www.nrc.gov/reactors/operating/ops-experience/baffle-former-bolts.html http://www.nrc.gov/reactors/operating/ops-experience/baffle-... 3. http://www.lohud.com/story/news/local/indian-point/2016/02/09/federal-specialist-indian-point-radioactive-leak/80087872/ http://www.lohud.com/story/news/local/indian-point/2016/02/0... 4. https://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/economic-impacts-closing-and-replacing-indian-point-energy-center-5988.html https://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/economic-impacts-cl...