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They regularly update Windows with a built-in auto updater mechanism (which is called Windows Update). For me, this is a killer feature #1.

jhasse 10y ago
??? Nearly every Linux distro has this.
- garganzol 10y ago
  Yeah, until sshd breaks due to incompatible dependency and I cannot login. There are exceptions though. For example, RedHat does a good job (in contrast to some other distros) and I always had auto update on for RedHat systems. Windows works like a Swiss clock in this regards, and it is the biggest selling point for me. Slap, update and forget. It just works then without any manual intervention, and most importantly, does not break things after updates.
  - Gracana 10y ago
    Even for updating domain controllers? This has not been the case for me. At the basic level pretty much any option will "just work", but for complex setups... I have found Windows to be difficult to use and difficult to learn about, with lots of proprietary software solutions for problems that should be easy to solve with the OS-provided tools, but aren't.
  - dspillett 10y ago
    > Yeah, until sshd breaks due to incompatible dependency and I cannot login. I can't say I've every had that happen to me or anyone else I've dealt with. Do you have any references to relevant bugs/issues? A properly running package manager should not allow this unless there is a serious bug in the packages themselves. The closest I can think of otherwise is someone getting locked out of a remote machine where root was the only active account and was authenticated buy user/pass not by key, and he accepted the "start blocking password logins for root" change in a distribution upgrade (so he was warned so his own fault!).
  - ciupicri 10y ago
    Why would you need SSH if the machine is auto-updating itself?
  - runjake 10y ago
    > until sshd breaks due to incompatible dependency and I cannot login. I've never had that happen, but thankfully remote (virtual) serial consoles are commonplace. Something I wish was more common in Windows environments, as I've had remote access dump on Windows many times, leaving me with no options other than a long drive or call in to a remote DC.
ro_man 10y ago
windows updates breaks the system quite often. I think all of us experienced it. enabling auto-update on windows servers is not the best idea if you need reliability. somebody recently told a story of 2 cloned vm machines, the same hardware and configuration. same updates installed on both. one did not start up correctly, other one runs smoothly. windows platform is way more unpredictable then any other system i worked with.

jhasse 10y ago

??? Nearly every Linux distro has this.

garganzol 10y ago
Yeah, until sshd breaks due to incompatible dependency and I cannot login. There are exceptions though. For example, RedHat does a good job (in contrast to some other distros) and I always had auto update on for RedHat systems. Windows works like a Swiss clock in this regards, and it is the biggest selling point for me. Slap, update and forget. It just works then without any manual intervention, and most importantly, does not break things after updates.
- Gracana 10y ago
  Even for updating domain controllers? This has not been the case for me. At the basic level pretty much any option will "just work", but for complex setups... I have found Windows to be difficult to use and difficult to learn about, with lots of proprietary software solutions for problems that should be easy to solve with the OS-provided tools, but aren't.
- dspillett 10y ago
  > Yeah, until sshd breaks due to incompatible dependency and I cannot login. I can't say I've every had that happen to me or anyone else I've dealt with. Do you have any references to relevant bugs/issues? A properly running package manager should not allow this unless there is a serious bug in the packages themselves. The closest I can think of otherwise is someone getting locked out of a remote machine where root was the only active account and was authenticated buy user/pass not by key, and he accepted the "start blocking password logins for root" change in a distribution upgrade (so he was warned so his own fault!).
- ciupicri 10y ago
  Why would you need SSH if the machine is auto-updating itself?
- runjake 10y ago
  > until sshd breaks due to incompatible dependency and I cannot login. I've never had that happen, but thankfully remote (virtual) serial consoles are commonplace. Something I wish was more common in Windows environments, as I've had remote access dump on Windows many times, leaving me with no options other than a long drive or call in to a remote DC.

ro_man 10y ago

windows updates breaks the system quite often. I think all of us experienced it. enabling auto-update on windows servers is not the best idea if you need reliability. somebody recently told a story of 2 cloned vm machines, the same hardware and configuration. same updates installed on both. one did not start up correctly, other one runs smoothly. windows platform is way more unpredictable then any other system i worked with.