6 ms·
'it really is a giant among giants.' You're confused. That would be Alphabet, not Apple. To put it in perspective for you, Google has: ~90% of the search mark
by xenobioticants 10y ago
'it really is a giant among giants.'
You're confused. That would be Alphabet, not Apple.
To put it in perspective for you, Google has:
~90% of the search market
(https://www.statista.com/statistics/216573/worldwide-market-share-of-search-engines/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/216573/worldwide-market-...)
~90% of the smartphone market
(https://techcrunch.com/2016/08/18/gartner-androids-smartphone-marketshare-hit-86-2-in-q2/ https://techcrunch.com/2016/08/18/gartner-androids-smartphon...)
~50% of the online advertisement market
(http://www.emarketer.com/Article/Google-Still-Dominates-World-Search-Ad-Market/1014258 http://www.emarketer.com/Article/Google-Still-Dominates-Worl...)
Hell, Google's staff meets with/at the White House more than once a week!
(http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3554953/Google-staffers-meetings-White-House-staggering-427-times-course-Obama-presidency-averaging-week.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3554953/Google-staff...)
I can think you can see the point I'm making: yes, Apple has a big pile of cash, a fat amount of profit and high stock value. However, Alphabet its influence and reach is far, far beyond that of Apple. Its just not as flashy & visible.
Don't agree? Let's imagine(!) two scenarios.
Scenario 1 - the US Government somehow figures out a way to force Apple to pay all its evaded taxes. Apple doesn't agree, and to make a point how important they are, killswitch everything. Results:
10% of the developed world can't use their phone anymore
10% of the developed world can't use their computer anymore
An even smaller subset can't access their e-mail
Scenario 2 - the US Government somehow figures out a way to force Google to pay all its evaded taxes. Google doesn't agree, and to make a point how important they are, killswitch everything. Results:
90% of the developed world can't use their phone anymore
90%+ (Android owners + Gmail, Gcal etc. users) of the developed world can't access their e-mail, calendars, contacts etc. anymore
??% (decently high) of companies/universities can't access their e-mail, calendars etc., because Google Apps is down
??% has trouble navigating because Google Maps goes down (Other maps are still inaccurate and incomplete outside of the US)
??% of companies experience issues by Google Maps+API being down (Uber springs to mind)
Advertising also stops working and paying out (can be switched easily though, so not as critical)
Besides that, Alphabet is also involved in a number of moonshot projects. (Level 4) Self-driving cars. immortality research, AI research, LTE balloons, etc. etc.
The funny part is that I'm typing this on a 13" Retina MBP, with a iPhone 5S in my pocket. I'm by no means a Google fanboy. I love Apple's vertical integration, the amount of synergy and seamlessness their devices have, and that they're championing individual privacy. Also doesn't hurt that compared to Linux, OS X is a godsend to dev on.
I've done enough inebriated rambling so I'm gonna shut up now..
Still gave KAT owner's IP address and all his .icloud e-mails to the FBI without any resistance. WTF?
- xenobioticants 10y agoI am sorry for the broken formatting of the scenario part but Hacker News its editing refuses to save my changes. Peace y'all!
- coldtea 10y ago>* I can think you can see the point I'm making: yes, Apple has a big pile of cash, a fat amount of profit and high stock value. However, Alphabet its influence and reach is far, far beyond that of Apple. Its just not as flashy & visible.* Yeah, Alphabet is bigger in every way that counts except those two inconsequential things for companies: revenue and profit.
- deleted 10y ago[deleted]
- deleted 10y ago[deleted]
- wstrange 10y agoThe iPhone exploited a rift in the space-time fabric. The right features at the right time, everybody had to have one and the margins are totally insane. That can't last. The market is nearing saturation, and competitive pressures will erode margins. It seems unlikely they will have another product that generates as much cash as the iPhone. They will still be a very profitable company, but perhaps not the cash printing machine that we have seen over the last 5 years.
- coldtea 10y agoThe exact same thing holds for Google Search. They have not generated any product that brings as much cash as search ads (not even close) -- and that's since 1998 or so. Google Docs, Google +, Google Glass (lol) etc never went anywhere much, revenue wise, and even Android is mostly a loss as far as Google is concerned, even including licenses and mobile ads (makes a good buck for Samsung though). > The market is nearing saturation, and competitive pressures will erode margins. They serve the top end of the market (neither feature phones, not "just give me some smartphone free with the contract") where there are not much competitive pressures and they've been milking more profit than all Android shops combined at that. Besides, that we have been kept hearing since 2008 when Android appeared, and it hasn't even happened in the desktop/laptop space (the sell 5-10% of PCs and get 45% of the PC profits).