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Anyone know if these will work along with the older GoTenna devices? I'm curious if the only difference is that the new devices can resend messages on enabling

Anyone know if these will work along with the older GoTenna devices? I'm curious if the only difference is that the new devices can resend messages on enabling a mesh network.

moftz 10y ago
The older GoTenna devices use the MURS band, the new mesh devices use 33cm band. Totally incompatible.
- daniper 10y ago
  Right, the other thing beyond being different frequencies is that we can't mesh on MURS frequencies given the FCC's rules on that band. So we moved to the civilian ISM band where store-and-forward is allowed. So we've had to negotiate not just with the laws of physics but the laws of... regulators ;-)
blastmasterB 10y ago
Nick from goTenna here. goTenna Mesh devices will not be interoperable with our first-gen goTenna devices because they operate on different frequencies. We would have loved to enable interoperability but that's physically and legally impossible due to regulatory restrictions.
- e3ak0jlf5ybdeah 10y ago
  Was there any consideration of using a removable 18650 lithium ion battery? It's a common size shared by flashlights and other outdoor equipment popular with your target market.
- SpikeDad 10y ago
  Did you not think of including your original GoTenna backers? This is the first I'm reading of this - you didn't send out email to current customers? I assume you're not going to give your original Kickstarter backers any discount even though we endured months and months of delays and broken delivery promises?
  - daniper 10y ago
    Hi you asked this twice in the thread; just replied to your other comment but copy/pasting here to be thorough: "Hey there, we sent an email out first thing this morning to all our v1 preorder customers (thousands and thousands) before we publicly announced the preorder campaign for Mesh and the mail system we use for newsletters bungled it and didn't send it at all, except to 24 people and their dashboard didn't show this happened til hours later (so we assumed everything was fine). We are working to remedy it right now. You all were supposed to get the very first email. (Here is proof of me yelling at the company whose software is responsible for this on Twitter -- after they didn't reply to 4 attempts to reach them prior: https://twitter.com/danielaperdomo/status/781222497131827200 https://twitter.com/danielaperdomo/status/781222497131827200 We are working in real-time to get this issue fixed, which was the opposite of our intention. I'm really sorry this happened."
    - SpikeDad 10y ago
      The email's in the mail. I guess I should have been grateful for what, 2 hours advanced notice. You obviously have little loyalty to your crowd sourced folks. Seems to me a LOT of advanced notice and some extra information to the original crowd sourced folks would have been appropriate. Another reason why I'm NEVER crowd sourcing again. The very people that should get the MOST consideration (after all we're basically throwing money at a promise) actually get the least consideration (we often are robbed or get a 1/2 ass implementation.
daniper 10y ago
In different places in this thread we've already discussed that different frequencies & different regulations means we couldn't have the v1 product Mesh and we means we can't have the Mesh product work with the v1. BUT I will say that we already have SMS network relay available for both v1 and Mesh which is the first time goTenna interconnects with central connectivity... and that, plus mesh, and some of the other stuff we're planning, is all meant to continue building out a parallel off-grid network that is resilient and scalable but that can plug into central infrastructure in creative ways that improves the communication stack for both on-grid and off-grid uses. The TL;DR of it is: How do we build infrastructure-free infrastructure? It starts small but we have, I think, Big Ideas ;-)

Anyone know if these will work along with the older GoTenna devices? I'm curious if the only difference is that the new devices can resend messages on enabling a mesh network.

moftz 10y ago

The older GoTenna devices use the MURS band, the new mesh devices use 33cm band. Totally incompatible.

daniper 10y ago
Right, the other thing beyond being different frequencies is that we can't mesh on MURS frequencies given the FCC's rules on that band. So we moved to the civilian ISM band where store-and-forward is allowed. So we've had to negotiate not just with the laws of physics but the laws of... regulators ;-)

blastmasterB 10y ago

Nick from goTenna here. goTenna Mesh devices will not be interoperable with our first-gen goTenna devices because they operate on different frequencies. We would have loved to enable interoperability but that's physically and legally impossible due to regulatory restrictions.

e3ak0jlf5ybdeah 10y ago
Was there any consideration of using a removable 18650 lithium ion battery? It's a common size shared by flashlights and other outdoor equipment popular with your target market.
SpikeDad 10y ago
Did you not think of including your original GoTenna backers? This is the first I'm reading of this - you didn't send out email to current customers? I assume you're not going to give your original Kickstarter backers any discount even though we endured months and months of delays and broken delivery promises?
- daniper 10y ago
  Hi you asked this twice in the thread; just replied to your other comment but copy/pasting here to be thorough: "Hey there, we sent an email out first thing this morning to all our v1 preorder customers (thousands and thousands) before we publicly announced the preorder campaign for Mesh and the mail system we use for newsletters bungled it and didn't send it at all, except to 24 people and their dashboard didn't show this happened til hours later (so we assumed everything was fine). We are working to remedy it right now. You all were supposed to get the very first email. (Here is proof of me yelling at the company whose software is responsible for this on Twitter -- after they didn't reply to 4 attempts to reach them prior: https://twitter.com/danielaperdomo/status/781222497131827200 https://twitter.com/danielaperdomo/status/781222497131827200 We are working in real-time to get this issue fixed, which was the opposite of our intention. I'm really sorry this happened."
  - SpikeDad 10y ago
    The email's in the mail. I guess I should have been grateful for what, 2 hours advanced notice. You obviously have little loyalty to your crowd sourced folks. Seems to me a LOT of advanced notice and some extra information to the original crowd sourced folks would have been appropriate. Another reason why I'm NEVER crowd sourcing again. The very people that should get the MOST consideration (after all we're basically throwing money at a promise) actually get the least consideration (we often are robbed or get a 1/2 ass implementation.

daniper 10y ago

In different places in this thread we've already discussed that different frequencies & different regulations means we couldn't have the v1 product Mesh and we means we can't have the Mesh product work with the v1. BUT I will say that we already have SMS network relay available for both v1 and Mesh which is the first time goTenna interconnects with central connectivity... and that, plus mesh, and some of the other stuff we're planning, is all meant to continue building out a parallel off-grid network that is resilient and scalable but that can plug into central infrastructure in creative ways that improves the communication stack for both on-grid and off-grid uses. The TL;DR of it is: How do we build infrastructure-free infrastructure? It starts small but we have, I think, Big Ideas ;-)