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When internal CDC employees are admitting to fraud and systemic corruption[1], it makes sense to do your own research. Conducting research is a welcome activity

by j197 10y ago

When internal CDC employees are admitting to fraud and systemic corruption[1], it makes sense to do your own research. Conducting research is a welcome activity in most civilized groups. [1]"Dr. Thompson has admitted in taped phone conversations and in a statement through his lawyer, that he and other authors of the study, which include senior officials at CDC, manipulated the data and violated study protocol to conceal their findings linking the MMR vaccine to autism." http://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2016/05/03/836249/0/en/CDC-Whistleblower-to-Extend-MMR-Vaccine-Fraud.html http://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2016/05/03/836249/...

Nursie 10y ago
I hope this gets downmodded to oblivion. Googling your way through false information, conspiracy theories and outright lies does not constitute research. The mmr-autism link is so thoroughly debunked that to keep repeating it is the dishonest in the extreme. The man that invented it has been shown to be an outright fraud, his research unethical and his ability to practice medicine taken from him.
slashink 10y ago
Account age 19 minutes... Hopefully trolling.
sodpaw 10y ago
That article should not be considered reliable. Even though that sentence was structured as a statement, all the sources are cited as "multiple reliable sources." There is no record of those "taped phone conversations" and the whole thrust of the article is that there is a rumor that the CDC will recant its study showing no link between the MMR vaccine and autism. Where does that rumor come from? Those multiple unnamed reliable sources. Also, this article was written in May, so if they were truly on the cusp of releasing new information it's weird that we're at the end of September and none of these predictions have come to pass. Though the article is a great example of how this type of misinformation can propagate and sound scary and true if you're already predisposed to believe its stance, so is still interesting to read from that perspective.
matthewmacleod 10y ago
Let's be clear: there is no evidence linking MMR vaccines with ASD. There are literally hundreds of examples of research into this, and there is ample evidence that there is no link. Here are my favourites; I'm sure you'll agree that they carry substantially more weight than a press release from an anti-vaccination group. http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=2275444 http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=2275444 http://www.bmj.com/content/342/bmj.c7452 http://www.bmj.com/content/342/bmj.c7452 http://dx.doi.org/10.1111/j.1469-7610.2005.01425.x http://dx.doi.org/10.1111/j.1469-7610.2005.01425.x http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X01000974 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X01... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15259839 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15259839 http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10803-006-0157-3 http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10803-006-0157-3 http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(99)00160-9/abstract http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-67...
DanBC 10y ago
Why not look at the multiple sources of corruption with Wakefield? A man who had a patent for a measles vaccine had to discredit that vaccine in order to be able to sell his own. Andrew Wakefield was hired by a lawyer -paid hundreds of thousands of dollars- to discredit MMR. He forged the data. He took samples without consent. He performed unnecessary tests and didn't get ethics panel approval. http://tallguywrites.livejournal.com/148012.html http://tallguywrites.livejournal.com/148012.html
DannyBee 10y ago
http://www.snopes.com/medical/disease/cdcwhistleblower.asp http://www.snopes.com/medical/disease/cdcwhistleblower.asp
nommm-nommm 10y ago
http://howdovaccinescauseautism.com http://howdovaccinescauseautism.com

by j197 10y ago

Nursie 10y ago

I hope this gets downmodded to oblivion. Googling your way through false information, conspiracy theories and outright lies does not constitute research. The mmr-autism link is so thoroughly debunked that to keep repeating it is the dishonest in the extreme. The man that invented it has been shown to be an outright fraud, his research unethical and his ability to practice medicine taken from him.

slashink 10y ago

Account age 19 minutes... Hopefully trolling.

sodpaw 10y ago

That article should not be considered reliable. Even though that sentence was structured as a statement, all the sources are cited as "multiple reliable sources." There is no record of those "taped phone conversations" and the whole thrust of the article is that there is a rumor that the CDC will recant its study showing no link between the MMR vaccine and autism. Where does that rumor come from? Those multiple unnamed reliable sources. Also, this article was written in May, so if they were truly on the cusp of releasing new information it's weird that we're at the end of September and none of these predictions have come to pass. Though the article is a great example of how this type of misinformation can propagate and sound scary and true if you're already predisposed to believe its stance, so is still interesting to read from that perspective.

matthewmacleod 10y ago

Let's be clear: there is no evidence linking MMR vaccines with ASD. There are literally hundreds of examples of research into this, and there is ample evidence that there is no link. Here are my favourites; I'm sure you'll agree that they carry substantially more weight than a press release from an anti-vaccination group. http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=2275444 http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=2275444 http://www.bmj.com/content/342/bmj.c7452 http://www.bmj.com/content/342/bmj.c7452 http://dx.doi.org/10.1111/j.1469-7610.2005.01425.x http://dx.doi.org/10.1111/j.1469-7610.2005.01425.x http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X01000974 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X01... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15259839 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15259839 http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10803-006-0157-3 http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10803-006-0157-3 http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(99)00160-9/abstract http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-67...

DanBC 10y ago

Why not look at the multiple sources of corruption with Wakefield? A man who had a patent for a measles vaccine had to discredit that vaccine in order to be able to sell his own. Andrew Wakefield was hired by a lawyer -paid hundreds of thousands of dollars- to discredit MMR. He forged the data. He took samples without consent. He performed unnecessary tests and didn't get ethics panel approval. http://tallguywrites.livejournal.com/148012.html http://tallguywrites.livejournal.com/148012.html

DannyBee 10y ago

http://www.snopes.com/medical/disease/cdcwhistleblower.asp http://www.snopes.com/medical/disease/cdcwhistleblower.asp

nommm-nommm 10y ago

http://howdovaccinescauseautism.com http://howdovaccinescauseautism.com