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This is brilliant news! It's one of those iconic London buildings. You'll see it on approach to London to Victoria station, it's clearly visible from the London

This is brilliant news! It's one of those iconic London buildings. You'll see it on approach to London to Victoria station, it's clearly visible from the London eye, and as the other commenter noted it's on the cover of that pink floyd album. It's use and renovation has been mooted for years but presumably it's always been held up because it's both a listed building and will be very expensive to renovate due to old hazardous materials and the like. It would take a company with Apple's cash to do this and I'm delighted to see it finally happening.

_9MOTHER9HORSE 10y ago
The wider redevelopment has nothing to do with Apple. The scheme got planning permission in 2011, and construction work has been ongoing since 2012. It's a mixed-use development, with office space only part of the puzzle, and according to this article, Apple are only taking a lease on 40% of the office space. I suspect Apple have negotiated hugely preferential rates on said space (as well as structuring the deal so as to pay the bare minimum in taxes, etc.), and the developers have agreed solely because having Apple move in is incredible PR.
- arethuza 10y ago
  Office developments often have "key tenants" that are big names that take an early lease on office space in a development and get a very good deal - having a big name then attracts other companies. A bit anchor tenants for malls.
- cylinder 10y ago
  Actually, enormous deep-pocketed companies with good credit, like Apple, are treated very favorably by landlords. The credit behind the tenant on a leased property determines the yield. So, a building tenanted by Apple on a 20-year lease can sell for a 2% cap rate while the same building tenanted by Joe's Plumbers Inc on a 10-year lease will sell for 6%+. Apple knows that so they can negotiate cheaper price per SQM.
adwhit 10y ago
The renovation has been underway for years now. Apple are simply taking out a lease on some of the new office space. I love the building but the surrounding area is ground zero for grotesque property speculation in London. Recently it looked like the developers had overplayed their hand and wouldn't be able to shift all the £1M+ flats - but now with a bunch of Apple devs looking to rent them out, who knows?
- mseebach 10y ago
  High London property prices are primarily a function of demand outpacing supply, and supply having been particularly slow for a couple of decades. If property developers struggle to shift flats in Battersea, then that's excellent news, that means that the market for expensive flats appear to have been saturated, and that developers will begin addressing the market below this price point now. Also, important to remember, Apple is moving their HQ, not adding a brand new location. The majority of the people working in that office already live in London, so when they moving in to pricey flats in Battersea, they're moving out of similar priced flats elsewhere. While possibly a windfall for those particular developers, the overall supply/demand situation in London won't change much.
  - _9MOTHER9HORSE 10y ago
    The only reason anyone is paying £1m+ for pokey two beds in Battersea is because they think a greater fool will pay more in a few years time.
    - mrec 10y ago
      Also, "sales" on these new developments often turn out to mean "off-plan Asian investor put down a £20k deposit which they can and will walk away from in a heartbeat if the market looks like turning, because what are you going to do about it?". In some ways they behave more like options for property speculation.
  - objclxt 10y ago
    > The majority of the people working in that office already live in London, so when they moving in to pricey flats in Battersea, they're moving out of similar priced flats elsewhere. Most of Apple's current offices in London are based in or around Regents Street, nobody is living in apartments near there. Most people are commuting in already, so it's not a massive upheaval.
TheOtherHobbes 10y ago
It's been held up because the numbers didn't work and there were numerous false starts - partly because the market for high-end flats is bubbly, and partly because the area has relatively poor transport links. Apple is leasing new offices, not organising the work directly. Work has started on a Northern Line extension to the area, which should open in 2020. That will make flats and offices more valuable, because they'll be on the end of a (relatively) easy commute to central London. Currently the nearest tube is a significant walk away, which isn't very fun in a London winter.
- handelaar 10y ago
  Right now all those staff are in central London, not a 15-30[1] minute tube trip away from it. But hey, on the plus side, it's the famously-reliable southern half of the Northern Line. And when you get there it definitely won't be wall-to-wall chinless posh kids. Yuck. [1] Fifteen being the minimum time it could possibly take door-to-door to Tottenham Court Road tube, assuming no waiting of any kind en route)
  - Symbiote 10y ago
    It's possible that when the Northern Line is extended to Battersea it will be split into two lines. That should significantly increase reliability.
    - leonk 10y ago
      They're splitting the charing cross branch to run to Battersea Power station, while the bank branch will run to Morden. Kind of how it currently works (Charing Cross trains almost always start at Kennington), so can't see it decreasing reliability. https://tfl.gov.uk/travel-information/improvements-and-projects/northern-line-extension https://tfl.gov.uk/travel-information/improvements-and-proje...
    - ropiku 10y ago
      That's a totally separate idea and won't be done anytime soon. From what I read Camden Town station would need to be rebuilt and plus a lot of other upgrade works: http://www.londonreconnections.com/2013/we-need-to-talk-about-camden/ http://www.londonreconnections.com/2013/we-need-to-talk-abou...

_9MOTHER9HORSE 10y ago

The wider redevelopment has nothing to do with Apple. The scheme got planning permission in 2011, and construction work has been ongoing since 2012. It's a mixed-use development, with office space only part of the puzzle, and according to this article, Apple are only taking a lease on 40% of the office space. I suspect Apple have negotiated hugely preferential rates on said space (as well as structuring the deal so as to pay the bare minimum in taxes, etc.), and the developers have agreed solely because having Apple move in is incredible PR.

arethuza 10y ago
Office developments often have "key tenants" that are big names that take an early lease on office space in a development and get a very good deal - having a big name then attracts other companies. A bit anchor tenants for malls.
cylinder 10y ago
Actually, enormous deep-pocketed companies with good credit, like Apple, are treated very favorably by landlords. The credit behind the tenant on a leased property determines the yield. So, a building tenanted by Apple on a 20-year lease can sell for a 2% cap rate while the same building tenanted by Joe's Plumbers Inc on a 10-year lease will sell for 6%+. Apple knows that so they can negotiate cheaper price per SQM.

adwhit 10y ago

The renovation has been underway for years now. Apple are simply taking out a lease on some of the new office space. I love the building but the surrounding area is ground zero for grotesque property speculation in London. Recently it looked like the developers had overplayed their hand and wouldn't be able to shift all the £1M+ flats - but now with a bunch of Apple devs looking to rent them out, who knows?

mseebach 10y ago
High London property prices are primarily a function of demand outpacing supply, and supply having been particularly slow for a couple of decades. If property developers struggle to shift flats in Battersea, then that's excellent news, that means that the market for expensive flats appear to have been saturated, and that developers will begin addressing the market below this price point now. Also, important to remember, Apple is moving their HQ, not adding a brand new location. The majority of the people working in that office already live in London, so when they moving in to pricey flats in Battersea, they're moving out of similar priced flats elsewhere. While possibly a windfall for those particular developers, the overall supply/demand situation in London won't change much.
- _9MOTHER9HORSE 10y ago
  The only reason anyone is paying £1m+ for pokey two beds in Battersea is because they think a greater fool will pay more in a few years time.
  - mrec 10y ago
    Also, "sales" on these new developments often turn out to mean "off-plan Asian investor put down a £20k deposit which they can and will walk away from in a heartbeat if the market looks like turning, because what are you going to do about it?". In some ways they behave more like options for property speculation.
- objclxt 10y ago
  > The majority of the people working in that office already live in London, so when they moving in to pricey flats in Battersea, they're moving out of similar priced flats elsewhere. Most of Apple's current offices in London are based in or around Regents Street, nobody is living in apartments near there. Most people are commuting in already, so it's not a massive upheaval.

TheOtherHobbes 10y ago

It's been held up because the numbers didn't work and there were numerous false starts - partly because the market for high-end flats is bubbly, and partly because the area has relatively poor transport links. Apple is leasing new offices, not organising the work directly. Work has started on a Northern Line extension to the area, which should open in 2020. That will make flats and offices more valuable, because they'll be on the end of a (relatively) easy commute to central London. Currently the nearest tube is a significant walk away, which isn't very fun in a London winter.

handelaar 10y ago
Right now all those staff are in central London, not a 15-30[1] minute tube trip away from it. But hey, on the plus side, it's the famously-reliable southern half of the Northern Line. And when you get there it definitely won't be wall-to-wall chinless posh kids. Yuck. [1] Fifteen being the minimum time it could possibly take door-to-door to Tottenham Court Road tube, assuming no waiting of any kind en route)
- Symbiote 10y ago
  It's possible that when the Northern Line is extended to Battersea it will be split into two lines. That should significantly increase reliability.
  - leonk 10y ago
    They're splitting the charing cross branch to run to Battersea Power station, while the bank branch will run to Morden. Kind of how it currently works (Charing Cross trains almost always start at Kennington), so can't see it decreasing reliability. https://tfl.gov.uk/travel-information/improvements-and-projects/northern-line-extension https://tfl.gov.uk/travel-information/improvements-and-proje...
  - ropiku 10y ago
    That's a totally separate idea and won't be done anytime soon. From what I read Camden Town station would need to be rebuilt and plus a lot of other upgrade works: http://www.londonreconnections.com/2013/we-need-to-talk-about-camden/ http://www.londonreconnections.com/2013/we-need-to-talk-abou...