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I've been into programming most of my life, but actually didn't get started professionally until my mid-to-late 20s. This gave me a unique view of said propagan
by drvdevd 10y ago
I've been into programming most of my life, but actually didn't get started professionally until my mid-to-late 20s. This gave me a unique view of said propaganda. It certainly lives everywhere including outside SV. I've been able to quickly recognize it being applied and thus desire other, better forms of compensation.
I think this is a skill we should strive to teach younger programmers, because if properly applied across the entire industry, we can raise standards across the market.
Just because they're willing to working 1.5-2X the hours doesn't mean they should be. Your time is valuable no matter how old you are
- daemonk 10y agoYeah definitely. I actually work in academia (I guess I wasn't very qualified to speak about SV). But it's the same shtick everywhere. Passion has become an euphemism for soft corporate brain-washing. I am reminded of this blog article by an ad executive before his death where he raised similar points about his industry: http://www.lindsredding.com/2012/03/11/a-overdue-lesson-in-perspective/ http://www.lindsredding.com/2012/03/11/a-overdue-lesson-in-p...
- superJimmy64 10y ago>(You don’t have to drive creative folk like most workers. They drive themselves. Just wind ’em up and let ’em go.) Great link: Very, VERY insightful.
- drvdevd 10y agoAgreed. What an excellent read! Highly recommended.
- emodendroket 10y agoI always like to think of passion in the classical meaning (like "the passion of Christ") when I read crap about being passionate at work.
- js8 10y ago> Your time is valuable no matter how old you are I disagree, but maybe that would explain it, your time is actually more valuable (for you) as you grow older.
- tobltobs 10y agoThe time between 20-35 is the most valuable time in your life imho. You will regret wasting this time for some death marches for a startup which promise you a lot of bullshit.
- js8 10y agoOf course you will regret it! Because, as I said, your time becomes more valuable as you get older. You're confusing good advice and empirical observation of reality. Anyway, let me add to my previous comment. It cuts both ways. If someone hires somebody who doesn't think their time is valuable, they are fooling themselves too. Perhaps this person will spend 2 hours on ping-pong and 2 hours on Facebook out of their 12 hour shifts, because they do not value their time as much yet.
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- emodendroket 10y agoReally? You think your time is without value? What a strange position.
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