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You may not have bought a Mac to be like everyone else but that doesn't necessarily mean that many others aren't buying Apple products at least partially due to

by Inconel 10y ago

You may not have bought a Mac to be like everyone else but that doesn't necessarily mean that many others aren't buying Apple products at least partially due to brand status and social signaling. Edit: I don't mind the downvotes if I have said something stupid but could I get some clarification here? I'm typing this on a MacBook so I clearly like Apple products but it seems like branding and marketing are fairly important to Apple, otherwise they probably wouldn't spend billions of dollars on ad campaigns.

striking 10y ago
In my view (though I did not downvote you) I felt you brought little to a conversation about tools for professionals. Sure, Apple doesn't make good pro tools anymore, but the interesting part is the anymore. It used to be that they made incredible workstations with really interesting gear, capturing a sort of "pro consumer" market. Maybe your point was that the financials are no longer there to support pro gear or creativity or even OS X as a whole because phones make them more money. If it was, though, you didn't express it. And I agree with the fact that many people are buying them because they're simply status symbols, but many more people buy them because they see it as the easiest choice. Your (average, run-of-the-mill) grandma's not going to be able to choose one of many Android phones unless her grandson tells her which one to pick. At that point she might just walk into an Apple store and out with a new phone. If that was part of your point, you also didn't express that. So I think you're losing points because your points aren't all too accurate or visible (at least from my point of view) and because, even if they were, they have very little to do about the deprecation of Apple's tooling for semi-/pro users.
- Inconel 10y ago
  Thanks for the detailed response, I very much appreciate it. Looking back, I suppose you are correct that my comment didn't add much to the conversation. In my defense though, my comment was a response to another poster who seemed to imply that no one buys Apple products due to it being a status symbol, at least that's how I interpret the line "Just stop with the status symbol crap". Said poster then uses their own reason for purchasing a Mac to completely dismiss the possibility that the broader market might base their purchasing decisions on less logical reasoning. My main confusion with the downvotes stemmed from the fact that while my comment may not have had much to do with the original topic, I thought it was appropriately related to the post I was responding to, and said post arguably had as little to do with the original topic as mine, while not garnering similar downvotes. In any case, thanks again for the explanation. I'll try and do a better job of staying on topic and crafting my responses.

by Inconel 10y ago

striking 10y ago

In my view (though I did not downvote you) I felt you brought little to a conversation about tools for professionals. Sure, Apple doesn't make good pro tools anymore, but the interesting part is the anymore. It used to be that they made incredible workstations with really interesting gear, capturing a sort of "pro consumer" market. Maybe your point was that the financials are no longer there to support pro gear or creativity or even OS X as a whole because phones make them more money. If it was, though, you didn't express it. And I agree with the fact that many people are buying them because they're simply status symbols, but many more people buy them because they see it as the easiest choice. Your (average, run-of-the-mill) grandma's not going to be able to choose one of many Android phones unless her grandson tells her which one to pick. At that point she might just walk into an Apple store and out with a new phone. If that was part of your point, you also didn't express that. So I think you're losing points because your points aren't all too accurate or visible (at least from my point of view) and because, even if they were, they have very little to do about the deprecation of Apple's tooling for semi-/pro users.

Inconel 10y ago
Thanks for the detailed response, I very much appreciate it. Looking back, I suppose you are correct that my comment didn't add much to the conversation. In my defense though, my comment was a response to another poster who seemed to imply that no one buys Apple products due to it being a status symbol, at least that's how I interpret the line "Just stop with the status symbol crap". Said poster then uses their own reason for purchasing a Mac to completely dismiss the possibility that the broader market might base their purchasing decisions on less logical reasoning. My main confusion with the downvotes stemmed from the fact that while my comment may not have had much to do with the original topic, I thought it was appropriately related to the post I was responding to, and said post arguably had as little to do with the original topic as mine, while not garnering similar downvotes. In any case, thanks again for the explanation. I'll try and do a better job of staying on topic and crafting my responses.