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I love living in Los Angeles as a single, 20 something, but the thought of trying to raise a family here terrifies me. The median price of a 3 bedroom home is $
by s0uthPaw88 10y ago
I love living in Los Angeles as a single, 20 something, but the thought of trying to raise a family here terrifies me. The median price of a 3 bedroom home is $865,000 which would mean that a large portion of my long term net worth would end up tied to a single asset. When it comes time to put down roots, I'll head to cheaper pastures.
- nawtacawp 10y agoColorado is calling.
- costatus 10y agoColorado is full thank you to move somewhere else and transform some other state into california.
- biocomputation 10y agoNative Washingtonian. We're also full.
- int_19h 10y agoNative? Which tribe are you from?
- biocomputation 10y agoHere's the Merriam-Webster definition in case you don't know what native means. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/native http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/native Is there a reason you raised the issue of race? Does my race matter? If so, I'd just LOVE to see you explain why.
- int_19h 10y agoYour race doesn't really matter, no. But neither does your native-born origin. You don't get to lay an exclusive claim on the arbitrarily defined geopolitical unit on the basis that you happened to be born there.
- biocomputation 10y agoExcept you wrote: >> Native? Which tribe are you from? Then you wrote: >> You don't get to lay an exclusive claim on the arbitrarily defined geopolitical unit on the basis that you happened to be born there. Why won't you just tell the truth: you don't like it when some people lay an exclusive claim to a geographical unit on the basis that they were born there, but you're fine when other people do it, provided YOU get to make the rules a la: "Native? Which tribe are you from?". BTW, there's a word for what you're doing. It starts with H.
- int_19h 10y agoIt was a rhetorical question to invite further discussion. Your assumptions about where I wanted the discussion to go from there are just that, assumptions. And no, I don't believe that Native Americans have such rights, either. But since you sounded like you believe that you do, it was a comparison that practically begged to be made.
- biocomputation 10y agoAre you that guy from the UK? I think we've had this conversation before.
- int_19h 10y agoNo, I'm a guy from Russia who lives in US. But I'm sure you had that conversation before - it's not exactly uncommon :)
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- rubbingalcohol 10y agoTry Minnesota. We're not dicks!
- andrei_says_ 10y agoI have my suspicions
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- davidw 10y agoYou could try Europe, where people have figured out that it's possible to live with lots of other people and still be pretty happy. This "OMG! Other people! The horror!" mentality is part of the reason why places like LA (and Boulder, in Colorado) get so expensive in the first place. If you do density right, it keeps prices down, and requires less driving because you can put a lot of smaller businesses in the middle of dense areas and have them be successful, and also walk/bike to them. It requires a substantial rethink of our zoning though.
- toomuchtodo 10y agoWorking remotely in parts of Portugal and Spain is a recipe for happiness and early retirement (speaking as a US citizen). I can't imagine wasting so much take home pay on CA living costs; you'll never be able to retire or own a home outright under those conditions.
- pedrosorio 10y agoAs a young Portuguese immigrant in California, I would selfishly ask you not to share this recipe too widely ;)
- davidw 10y agoPlaces like Portugal - and Italy, where I spent most of the last 15 years - would certainly be helped more than harmed by people moving there with high-paying jobs and paying into the local economy.
- pedrosorio 10y agoThat is probably true up to some extent. I just don't want to the country (Lisbon, in particular) becoming an amusement park for tourists (in the style of Barcelona).
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- int_19h 10y agoYou're welcome to pool resources with like-minded individuals, purchase all property that has been developed or is planned to be developed in Colorado, and prevent it from being used by or sold to anyone else. Until then, the entire state is not your backyard, thankfully. And it should go without saying, but there's no natural right for things around you to remain exactly like they have always been. Although you do, of course, have a natural right to free speech to grumble about how they change.
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- santaclaus 10y agoI dunno the Denver and Portland trains as cheap and fun urban areas sailed a few years ago (the cheap part). I'm waiting to see what the next rad yet cheap city is... Nashville maybe?
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- JBReefer 10y agoKansas City. Nashville has been a hotspot for back office outsourcing from the Bay and NYC for years.
- wrigby 10y agoI've been really impressed with Richmond, VA. The tech scene is small, but pretty healthy. It's not my favorite weather, but it has four seasons, which is a plus. Great restaurants (some DC restaurant concepts get tested there first). I haven't spent much time in Nashville, but I've only heard good things from friends that moved there after college.
- irrational 10y agoYeah, all the californians moved to Portland and caused the housing prices to sky rocket.
- smrtinsert 10y agoJust back from Boulder. Could live there and work there. Denver is like a typical blue collar town, but Boulder has that utopian walkable thing that techies crave so much. The bookstores in Boulder are incredible. Weather was great this time of year at least.
- hiram112 10y agoBoulder house prices are probably as high as East Bay in California at this point.
- Overtonwindow 10y agoGeorgia welcomes you with open arms. I moved from the DC area where I was spending $1,800/mo for a 2 bed 2 bath 30 miles outside of DC. I came south and bought a 3,200 sq ft home, 12 miles from downtown Atlanta, for $200,000. I've got a nice backyard, two car garage, it's quiet, costs are low, and the weather is nice.
- jonathankoren 10y agoIve been to Atlanta. I wouldn't describe the weather, especially the summers, as "nice". 90 F with 100% humidity[0], isn't "nice." I grew up with it. It sucked. Also, I don't really think the Confederacy is a welcoming place. [0] https://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KPDK/2015/9/26/CustomHistory.html?dayend=27&monthend=9&yearend=2016&req_city=&req_state=&req_statename=&reqdb.zip=&reqdb.magic=&reqdb.wmo= https://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KPDK/2015/9/26/...
- int_19h 10y agoWhen some place becomes a new popular migration destination, its politics usually change pretty fast.
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- jonathankoren 10y agoNope. See Austin. Largest city in the US without its own congressional representative. Instead, it's gerrymandered into 6 other districts to minimize Democratic representation.[0] See the latest disenfranchisement laws.[1] If you're going to lose, change the rules. [0] http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2013/jul/17/elliott-naishtat/austin-legislator-calls-austin-largest-us-city-wit/ http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2013/jul/17/ellio... [1] http://www.newsweek.com/voter-id-laws-discriminatory-disenfranchise-485708 http://www.newsweek.com/voter-id-laws-discriminatory-disenfr...
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- hugs 10y agoCost of living and real estate prices are what keep me away from living in California again, even though I grew up there. Grew up in Thousand Oaks (due north of Malibu), but got married and started my family in Oak Park (west of Chicago). We'd be happy to have you here! Take all the money you would otherwise spend on a house in L.A. and instead, spend it on extending your startup's runway, and/or 3D printers, Arduino, and making robots. It worked for me! With O'Hare airport nearby, you're always a frequent, direct flight away from the coasts if needed.
- toomuchtodo 10y agoFunny enough, I recently moved from Schaumburg (having lived most of my life in the Chicago suburbs) to St Petersburg, FL to get away from the high cost of living in Illinois (and the winters!). No income tax (helpful in high earning years), much lower property taxes, and I'm 15 minutes from one of the top rated beaches in the country.
- kcanini 10y agoYeah, but how many high-paying tech jobs are available in Florida?
- toomuchtodo 10y agoI work remote for a Bay Area startup, close to market rate. If I instead worked locally, DevOps jobs are a plenty. Sure, not at $130K-$150K/year, but plenty at $100K-$125K/year, which affords more purchasing power relatively than me making market rate in the Bay Area. And I get much more time with my family working from home. There is no amount of money in the world worth trading quality of life.
- kilbuz 10y agoWhich is exactly why many people would never dream of leaving SF for Florida.
- gjolund 10y agoThe sooner you leave LA, the sooner you can start saving for the things you want to do. I lived there for 6 years, now I do remote work for an LA based company and travel. Best decision I ever made.